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My sister financially benefitting from our parents AGAIN.

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QueenofmyPrinces · 26/11/2018 08:40

There are 13 months between me and my sister so we were very close growing up together and we are still close now, I love her and she’s one of my favourite people to be around.

Growing up we were very different, I was the typical ‘good sensible girl’ whereas she was more the type who took each day as it came and having fun was her main focus. At the time, I was envious of her character and spirit and wished I was more like her.

I did well at school, went to college, then university and have a professional job, whereas she didn’t really try at school, dropped out of two college courses and eventually ended up in a job that our neighbour found for her.

Fast forward to now: we’re in our late 30s and still very close. We both have two children although she is no longer with the father as he turned out to be a complete shit. He’s active in the children’s lives though and he provides well for them financially and helps my sister out too in ways he isn’t obliged to. I don’t particularly like the man but I can’t criticise him for the way he still provides for the children and the things he does to help my sister.

In our teenage years and through our 20’s my sister was frequently financially helped out by our parents because “she didn’t have a well paying job” and they paid out a lot for her. They paid for things to be done around her house (luxuries as opposed to necessities), paid her phone bills and store cards, paid for things for the children and paid for her driving lessons too when she was in her mid 20’s.

At the same time as they were paying for her driving lessons I was having to pay for my own lessons even though I was a student and they were charging me rent, compared to her being in full time employment and not even living in the family home anymore.

I could list lots of ways my sister has financially benefited from our parents over the last 10-15 years and although there has always been potential for resentment because of how differently we were treated I never felt it, or if I did I have no recollection of it and it didn’t impact on my relationship with my sister.

Fast forward to the last 12 months or so and my sister started going out with her friends a lot more, going out frequently for meals and drinks, going away for weekends, having new clothes etc and at the time I thought nothing of it. I was just glad to see her enjoying herself now her children are older (10 and 14) and that she was getting her life back as it were.

Recently me and DH have put ourselves out quite significantly in terms of finances in order to do something to benefit her children in order to allow them to experience something they’d never be able to if me and DH didn’t pay for it. Initially we had spoken about her paying 10% of the cost but after thinking about it I told my sister that no financial contribution was necessary as I was happy to treat my nieces and that I knew every pound counts to her and that even a small contribution would be difficult for her. She said thanks, she appreciated it and that was the end of the discussion.

Anyhow - I found out a few days ago that for the last 12 months my parents have been giving her £200 every month “just in case she needs it” and it’s actually really pissed me off. Our parents are divorced and they each give her £100.

I now feel a little put out that she so readily accepted our offer not to contribute to what we are doing for her children (which is costing us nearly £1k) when she’s getting £200 each month from our parents that she doesn’t actually need.

They (particularly my mom) also give her children money quite frequently whereas mine don’t get anything.

Inside I feel like the “special treatment” of her is still going on after all these years and I think that throughout her life it’s paid off that she didn’t get a good job because my parents have paid out so much for her and still do. I’m also in disbelief that at our age she is still taking money from our parents because as adults shouldn’t we be taking responsibility for ourselves?

I haven’t told my sister that I know about our parents giving her money each month and my parents don’t know that I know either. I won’t say anything to either of them though because it won’t serve any purpose. I only found out due my mom’s brother accidentally letting it slip when he asked me how I was spending my £200 each month as he had assumed my parents were doing it for both of us.

Im just venting. I know it’s my parents choice how they spend their money but after watching them pay out for so much for her over the last two decades this has been a bit of a blow to know they’re still doing it.

I was talking to DH about it and in my frustration I said that I wished I’d made her life choices instead of my own as maybe then my parents would have paid my way in life too and funded my lifestyle choices. I didn’t mean it, I just said it in frustration. I don’t want money from my parents, I wouldn’t accept it if they offered, but I feel a bit hurt that again my sister is getting money from them for no real reason whereas their generosity wasn’t even offered to me.

AIBU to feel a bit pissed off? Has anyone else been in a similar position and found ways to deal with it?

OP posts:
ChristmassyContessaConSparkles · 01/01/2019 14:42

Hope you've left now OP - she's taking the proverbial.

Tistheseason17 · 01/01/2019 14:42

Oh yeah, she def loves being in control. She is still not happy!

Don't let her try and turn the situation into her being the victim. She isn't.

Mix56 · 01/01/2019 15:09

Is she usually late ? I fear that was a deliberate move, what was so important that she had to "pop" to ? I hope she showed before you abandoned.... She must know its uncomfortable sitting around alone in a pub.

CurlyhairedAssassin · 01/01/2019 15:41

Op, I’m another one who thinks you’re awesome. And the relationship you have wirh your sister sounds fab. I’m really learning a lot from how you’re dealing with the family dynamics.

Hope the lunch went ok with no drama.

DitzyPrints · 01/01/2019 15:45

Read this thread today hope the lunch goes ok and your mother hasn’t tried to continue to blame you op. She really needs to take responsibility for this mess.

DitzyPrints · 01/01/2019 15:53

Read this thread today hope the lunch goes ok and your mother hasn’t tried to continue to blame you op. She really needs to take responsibility for this mess.

QueenofmyPrinces · 01/01/2019 18:33

Well she did eventually turn up, 25 minutes later than arranged and the reason she was late was because she had detoured to collect my dad! I was surprised to see him and mom told me she’d done it as she had assumed I would bring my sister so she thought it would help “even things out”. That’s total rubbish though as she knew I was always planning on coming alone. It was very awkward and it was clear my dad felt very awkward too - she’d obviously implied to him that it was all arranged that the four of us would be going out for a nice meal together and when he realised that it wasn’t the case he seemed pretty embarrassed for himself and for me.

Anyway, we sat down and I decided that if this was her way of trying to stop me confronting her then I wasn’t going to play ball and so I continued to talk to her as though my dad wasn’t there and asked her outright why she had shunned me and my sister at Christmas.

She said she hadn’t shunned us at all and that if that’s how we perceived her actions to be then she had no control over that.

I asked if she could understand why me and my sister were so confused by her behaviour towards us lately and why we felt she was trying to cause a divide between us and she told me that we were imagining it.

She told me I should stop making drama where there is none and perhaps if I hadn’t opened my mouth in the first place (regarding learning about the £200) then none of us would be in this situation. She sort of laughed at me and told me that the family troubles were a consequence of my actions and that I should stop trying to put the blame on her.

My dad did stand up for me and say that I’d had good reason for speaking up and that I shouldn’t be punished for it and that if me and my sister could talk about it properly then why couldn’t she?

She then said that he was siding with me and my sister and that she was fed up of being painted the bad guy yet again after everything she’s done for us (her words). She called my sister ungrateful and me jealous and said we were behaving like children. When she said that I simply stood up and walked out, it was the final straw.

My dad followed and pleaded with me to go back inside so we could sort it out and I said it was completely pointless. I said that I had been trying my hardest not to be angry with my mom and try to see things from her point of view but that she wasn’t prepared to do the same and so I was done.

I told him to tell her that she had bought this on herself, that I had been willing to try and sort it all out and listen to what she had to say but seeing as she can’t accept any responsibility then I have nothing left to say to her.

He asked me not to go and not to leave things like this but I was past caring and just drive home.

I’ve had a little cry on my husband’s shoulder and I feel so drained about it all. I guess I was naive to think that maybe my mom did want to try and sort things out between us. I don’t understand why she’s behaving like this. I haven’t even done anything wrong.

OP posts:
woollyheart · 01/01/2019 18:53

Sorry about that. Thanks

She is clearly not prepared to take any responsibility or reach out to you in any meaningful way.

RandomMess · 01/01/2019 19:10
Thanks

Because she doesn't want to admit her mistakes, it is all everyone else's fault and she is completely innocent. She wants to carry on being in control and perceive herself to be the amazing matriarch of the family...

Thanks
Tistheseason17 · 01/01/2019 19:11

I'm sorry it turned out like this.
She's very manipulative and you behaved with strength. Well done, and sorry Flowers

CurlyhairedAssassin · 01/01/2019 19:15

Sorry it ended like that. She sounds extremely difficult. What are you going to do now?

PanamaPattie · 01/01/2019 19:21

Good for you for waking out and taking back control. You can't reason with the unreasonable. You can't change your "D"M. She knows she has lost this round. That's why she brought your Dad. You've done your best. The scales have dropped from your eyes and you now see your real mother. Not pretty is it? Don't contact her. She won't change. It will always be someone else's fault.

Good luck for 2019 OP. You will always have your DSis.

Yulebealrite · 01/01/2019 19:23

I should imagine that was a very disappointing outcome when you'd offered an olive branch and she appeared to want to meet you half way.

Well at least you know you've tried your best. The ball really is in her court now.

Mix56 · 01/01/2019 19:39

She really has dug herself into a hole. I am so sorry, you must be hurting badly, & as you say, none of it is your fault. At least your Dad understands, & surely your sister will too.
I think the only action is to remain silent with her, & see if time will help her see that she has ostracized herself, & no one is going to back down.
IMHO, she has reaped what she has sowed.
You have your Sis, Dad, Husband & kids, & DNs. You are lucky.
Something has broken, but it was never whole in the first place.

QueenofmyPrinces · 01/01/2019 19:40

All I have ever wanted is for us all to work this out together and find a way to move on and I don’t understand why she doesn’t want the same?

She knows how much I love my sister and always have and so I feel so angry that she doesn’t even care that she could have been potentially ruined our relationship. How can a mother just not care about the damage she may cause to her children’s relationships with each other? She’s treating it like a big game and I can’t bear it.

I feel like I don’t even recognise her as the mother I’ve always known. She is behaving so unlike her and I can’t understand it. She genuinely doesn’t seem to care about how upsetting all this has been for me and my sister, and how low we have both felt for about ourselves for decades because of her behaviour towards us.

When it first all came out I felt quite calm about it all and took a practical approach towards sorting it out, but now I feel like I’m losing that rational side and I just feel so angry towards her!

OP posts:
Mix56 · 01/01/2019 19:49

She was damaged when she abandoned you as children, she never recovered, she has been playing out a game all along.
She is accepting no blame, you can't fix something or someone who is in denial.
Time to protect yourself in a nest with the people who love you too

subspace · 01/01/2019 19:53

I'm so sorry you're going through this.

The plus side, if it can be said to be one, seems to be a stronger relationship with your sister. I hope that gives you some strength. Flowers

Dogsmellssobadbob · 01/01/2019 20:09

So sorry OP
You sound so lovely and caring and calm and pragmatic.
I’m impressed with how much effort you have made

Your mum is a classic narcissist
You won’t change her
She is like a child- senses her power has been challenged and is throwing her toys out the pram

You ha e to maintain a dignified distance now. Don’t offer her anymore. Until she really sees you won’t join in her games then she still holds some power. Tbh she may never accept any responsibility or try to build bridges and you may need to accept that long term your relationship with her will be very basic.

Hold your dad and sister close as they have also suffered at her hands and you sound a close unit with them.

epicclusterfuck · 01/01/2019 20:31

I would suggest you are going through a process of grieving the loss of the relationship you thought you had so this may involve feelings of denial, anger, bargaining, depression, and acceptance.

Babyblade · 04/01/2019 09:08

Hi OP - how are you doing?

I think you're handling this situation really well, you come across as warm, thoughtful and compassionate. The fact that you've managed to maintain and improve your relationship with your sister speaks volumes.

Hopefully your Mum will calm down and you can build a new relationship with her. Just leave the door open to her to come back - that's all you can do. Anything else is just going to fuel her anger.

Wishing you luck and happiness for the year ahead.

QueenofmyPrinces · 04/01/2019 10:53

Hi babyblade

I’m not doing too good at the moment to be honest as things seem to be snowballing and whereas at first I felt like I had everything (including my emotions) under control I now feel like everything is a bit surreal and slipping between my fingers.

Extended family members are now getting involved telling me not to be so hard on my mom and how distressed she is by the whole thing etc. She’s making out that I’m punishing her because she was helping my “sister in need” (her words) and that I’m being unfair. My grandad (her dad) has told me to just let things go, try and understand how hard it must have been for my mom to see my sister financially struggling and understand that she only ever had my sister’s best interests at heart and she’d never do anything to intentionally hurt me.

My mom’s version of events to them has basically painted me as the bitter sister who is on some vendetta to punish my mother.

Thankfully my grandad had said all this over the phone so I was able to tell him I didn’t want to talk about it to him, that he’d obviously made his mind up about the situation and so I was going to go, and then I hung up.

I haven’t heard from my mom since I walked out on dinner but no surprises there. My dad came round to visit me last night and apologised again for all this happening as a result of his (and my mom’s) actions over the last two decades. I told him he was not responsible for my mom’s current behaviour and that I was grateful for his support. He seems very brow beaten by it all himself actually because he can see how upset I am and he knows there’s nothing he can do to help.

It’s been a very crap start to the New Year.

OP posts:
Yulebealrite · 04/01/2019 11:05

I'd phone grandad back and tell him, and anyone else who gets involved, that it's much more complicated that what your mums said. That it upsets you to talk about it and you don't want to drag everyone into taking sides. That hopefully it will sort itself out as you love your mum but that you are not going to take all the blame and ask them to bare in mind that there are two sides to every story.
And repeat.

ContessaIsOnADietDammit · 04/01/2019 11:25

I agree with Yule. In fact I'd go one step further and proactively contact everyone to say just that (discuss with your sister first). If they can see you and she are on the same page then that may give the lie to whatever your mum is spouting.

QueenofmyPrinces · 04/01/2019 11:28

To be honest I felt like telling him that if perhaps he hadn’t done such a bad job on raising my mother and making her feel worthless then maybe none of us would be in this position in the first place!! I’m himdsoght I’m glad I didn’t say it because it would only have made things ten times worse.

I’m more surprised that my mom has told him about it all to be honest because she has never spoken particularly fondly of him which I imagine is because of her own childhood. Why she thought having a heart to heart with him was the thing to do I have no idea.

I know everyone on here has praised me for dealing with this so well and being so calm and thoughtful but right now I just feel so pissed off and angry with everyone. I feel so much rage towards my mom and I have no idea how to deal with it Sad

OP posts:
ContessaIsOnADietDammit · 04/01/2019 11:41

I sympathise with you on that score op; mine's dead so at least I can take my time sitting and mentally processing it all. It's harder when they are still in the world and you feel like you have to second-guess the next crappy thing they're going to say or do. However you feel you're doing, trust us when we say that you're doing well. Hugs Flowers

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