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The tale of the toxic bridesmaid

264 replies

grincheux · 19/11/2018 14:34

NC for this.

I'm tangled up in a toxic friendship. It's coming to a head, and I'm not sure how to handle it. Apologies in advance, this might go on a bit...

Friend in question is the sort of person who is 'the constant' in every shitty situation which happens to her. Her life is a mess, largely engineered by herself, she falls out with just about everyone she meets and as a result doesn't have many friends and has cut contact with her own family, and tries to disconnect her partner from his own family. She's incredibly moody and manipulative, but I've stuck by her for years and been her only friend and support, which unfortunately means I'm also on the receiving end of that bad bits. I should make it clear that we are "close" - we see each other once a week etc.

She and her partner got engaged a few years ago after their DD was born. I've had five dates in my calendar for her wedding now over the last few years, none of which have actually happened. Cue plenty of time spent wasted looking at wedding venues and suppliers which she never actually intended to book. This year, she settled for a date over a year away and sent out save the dates. She then magnanimously announced to me that she "wouldn't be angry if I got married before her". I wasn't even engaged.

Fast forward a bit. DP and I are now engaged (hooray!) and are getting married... A few months before her. Our circumstances are completely different, we want to start a family and would prefer to be married first, you get the picture. When I told her we'd got engaged, she didn't sound as excited as a lot of other friends. She made it clear that her primary concern was my availability to help her organise her wedding now. I felt like I had to ask her to be a bridesmaid because she'd kick off if I didn't (it's highly unpleasant when she does, weeks of the silent treatment, snarky texts and strops). She doesn't get on with any of the other bridesmaids (or my family... or friends... see where this is going...) and has already upset several other people in our wedding party. On Friday night she rang me to complain about the other bridesmaids and threatened not to come to the wedding. She changed her tune when I told her that was "a shame but up to her". Same again when she said she was going to cancel her own wedding because "this is all too much" (I haven't actually asked her to do or organise anything).

She's been 'off' with me this week for no apparent reason and after messages from other friends asking what her problem is - I've finally had enough. I feel like I've almost been gaslighted by this woman for years and I've finally seen what a pain in the arse she is, and now she's putting me on edge about my wedding as well. I realise this is partly my own fault for carrying on pandering to her for as long as I have but it's too much now. She's upsetting me, and now my other friends.

AIBU to want to completely cut contact with this person? I don't even want her at the wedding for fear of her either sulking in a corner or causing some sort of scene... Far less than having her as a bridesmaid. I know what I want to do, I'm just not sure how to go about it. Whatever I do or say, I'm pretty sure she's going to be vile about it. Please help MMers. Sad

OP posts:
user1473795059 · 20/11/2018 17:49

I had to cut my BF who was also MOH off during my wedding prep as she phoned me and called me a C U next Tuesday because I had the audacity to went dress shopping with DM.
She then turned up at my wedding reception CRYING because she wasn’t on the guest list. Some people are crazy - you just don’t realise how Crazy til they’re out of your life Wink

UnRavellingFast · 20/11/2018 17:59

well done, OP. Totally the right decision. It's only when you've had to deal with this type of toxic friendship that you understand it must be final. Once she's out, you won't ever want her back and who knows - one day it might be helpful to her if she does some therapy or something.

I had this years ago and as pp said, realised when she was away that I felt free and relieved. I was very young so dealt with in fairly young way - having listened to her constant non stop moaning for years, I had an hour long moan to her without giving her a word in edgeways. She phoned me back to say I'd become very self centred and boring and had decided to give the friendship a break Grin I was beyond excited that she was out of my life! I then completely blocked for evermore.

MumMRM · 20/11/2018 18:08

Please let us know how it goes x

Alessoutingname · 20/11/2018 18:11

OP you’ll not regret it. I asked my sister to be my bridesmaid because I genuinely wanted her to be but she caused nothing but heartache and I suspect it was because for the first time in years the attention wasn’t on her. I’d considered asking her to step down and knew deep down after her behaviour I didn’t want her there (sounds terrible because she’s my sister) I just knew she would start a scene because that’s what she does. The situation rectified itself because she text me the day before to say she wasn’t going. Honestly she wasn’t missed. 5 years on and although we talk to eachother at family things and are civil I’m so glad she wasn’t at my wedding. Im glad I don’t look back on my pictures and see her there.

MummasTheWord · 20/11/2018 18:17

You have to let us know how it goes!

The tale of the toxic bridesmaid
starfish2020 · 20/11/2018 18:27

Well done OP for sending a message.
I too had a toxic friend for few years and it all became very nasty, cutting contact was the only thing I could do
She also was another level of drama lama such a narcissist and people like that don’t change.

grincheux · 20/11/2018 18:43

24 hours on, and... Nothing!

I half expected to get home from work to a poison pen letter or horse's head in my bed but no, nothing. I've blocked her on everything I can think of, but she knows where I live so of she actually wanted to apologise (or continue the argument), I'm sure she'd have turned up by now.

The relief today has been amazing 😊 I've started feeling so excited about the hen do and the wedding, nothing overhanging it! Even silly things like I can post what I want on social media now, if I'd posted a photo of me with other friends she'd always have something nasty to say about it, or if I went to see other friends she'd get the hump.

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MumW · 20/11/2018 18:44

which is a bit embarrassing as I feel like keeping her around for as long as I did reflected on me and my shitty choice of company 😂

You could look at it that way or you could see that you are a very kind and caring person who didn't want to give up on a very obviously deranged friend.
Well done. You have the patience of a Saint, but even Saints are allowed to reach the end of their tether.
Flowers

My6KidCircus · 20/11/2018 18:51

@grincheux enjoy your planning!
If she should decided to turn up, tell her you've said all you had to say and that is that.
My ex bff Would pull the same thing regarding other friends.
How dare our lives not revolve around them.

Good luck! Wine

Aeroflotgirl · 20/11/2018 18:53

I am pleased, this has been hugely beneficial to you. No you did not ghost her, you gave her an explanation, but eliminated the chance of her giving you vile abuse.

MummaCl4 · 20/11/2018 19:05

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Catsinthecupboard · 20/11/2018 19:11

Good riddance to bad rubbish.

My daughter was friends with a crazy woman. EVERY bad thing that happened to dd happened in her company.

Im not blaming her friend but nothing serious has happened to dd since ending the friendship while dh ran into her old friend at store a week ago and she looked like she's 6 years older in just a year.

As a mother, i wish her well, as my daughter's mother, i hope she moves to another country.

browneyes77 · 20/11/2018 19:16

I had a best friend who I cut out of my life a few years ago. Things came to a head around her wedding and afterwards where she did and said some incredibly hurtful things to me (and admitted during an argument that she knew she’d hurt me with them and that’s why she’d basically done them) and I finally realised that I just didn’t want someone like that in my life.

She’d always been possessive of my friendship and had made snide comments to my other friends and had arguments with them when i’d invited her out with them. I could only count one occasion when she’d been there for me as a friend, compared to the countless times I’d been her key support. Over the years I’d consistently excused her behaviour.

When I cut her out of my life it was like a weight had been lifted off my shoulders. And my mom was as happy as yours, because she’d never liked this friend either!

It’s really hard to cut friends out when they’ve been part of your life for so long, but sometimes you have to for your own sanity and wellbeing!

Flowers
Herladyships · 20/11/2018 19:17

Reading everything you have written sounds exactly how I used to be sometimes with people. If you are anything like me you will suddenly have had a lightbulb moment & think what on Earth am I doing & putting up with. Can I say your fiend sounds very bitter as she is trying to make you turn away from your friends by slagging then off. All her behaviour is coming from pure jealousy of your support network you have around you in your life & she absolutely hates it. She is extremely controlling especially with trying to get her hubby to be in trying to turn him against his own family, it’s just her trying to get some sort of control of everyone & making her no 1 kingpin. I admire your decision to try & cut all contact with her but I would seriously worry that she could turn up at your wedding venue to try & sabotage it through her total loss of your friendship. My ex was exactly the way you describe your friend is & so I really do feel for you. It took me 9 years of hell with him to realise his control & I had that lightbulb moment. She sounds a spoilt immature brat, only child syndrome behaviour & definitely a time bomb just waiting to happen. I think you should maybe write her a letter writing out in full how she Makes you feel as gently as possible as personally I don’t think she will just let your friendship go like that especially if you are all she has apart from her OH. Your wedding planning is an exciting time not a tug of war with a person who pretends to be your friend, who needs enemies with her around.
The absolute best of luck in however you choose to play this but be please careful as I think she has real anger issues from the way she behaves & maybe needs professional help with her raging outbursts

Zoejj77 · 20/11/2018 19:26

I had a friend like this and it came to head when it was my wedding. Enough was enough I sacked her off - best thing I ever did. She drained me and as much as I wish her well that friendship is over

a1poshpaws · 20/11/2018 19:28

Blanchedupetitpois wrote the perfect response to her.

Deadpoet · 20/11/2018 19:32

Toxic friends are the worst. Cut her off and don’t look back. Congratulations on your engagement xx

Serialweightwatcher · 20/11/2018 19:38

Well done you! For goodness sake please stick to your guns because people like she sounds are very good at manipulating it back to where they want it to be. Always remember how free you are feeling right now and how she is completely toxic and will always make you miserable.

Pinkyyy · 20/11/2018 19:45

So good to hear you're already feeling more positive and uplifted! although I am still awaiting her crazy response Grin

Prawnofthepatriarchy · 20/11/2018 19:47

I'm so pleased, Grincheux. Congratulations for finally biting the bullet. It's a hard thing to do but it definitely needed doing.

alwayswinetime · 20/11/2018 19:51

I was in almost exactly the same type of friendship a few years back. We’d been friend for about 6 years. I got to the point where I felt suffocated and constantly on edge. I ended up confronting her and pointing out kindly that she was making it difficult for me to be a good friend. This didn’t work and found it made her worse - she started texting and calling me obsessively questioning me sometimes being really vile and nasty. In the end, I stopped responding to her completely; I just cut her out because she was too unreasonable. I can honestly say that it was the best decision I ever made. I didn’t realise the impact she was having on my life until she was gone. Do not allow this “friend” to ruin your big day. Give her the choice now to shut up or get lost.

BigFatGoalie · 20/11/2018 20:12

Oh well done OP! It’s not easy but I can see you’re already feeling like the weight of the world has lifted off your shoulders!
I cut a friend out when she drumroll please told other people that I had “feelings for her husband”...
Never, ever in a million years would I or did I have feelings for him.
I had been pulling back from our friendship because of her behaviour, so she needed an excuse to why we didn’t see as much of each other anymore. The way I found out was that she was telling all her friends, and when I had met them at hers a few times previously we’d got on well, so two of them emailed me to tell me the lies she was spinning.

I confronted her, and even with the evidence, she completely denied it. I cut her off there and then, 2.5 years ago and have never been happier!
Never mind that she was in love with a colleague a few years back...

CanuckBC · 20/11/2018 21:08

Good job on getting rid. Toxic friends just drag you down:(

frufru27 · 20/11/2018 21:23

I had a similar friendship...here’s what happened I started flaking out on plans,stopped texting as much ignored phone calls that sort of thing,she got gist the and asked me if we’re drifting apart I said I think so....she blocked me on fb that seemed to be the end of the very one sided friedship,jobs a gooden 🤣🤣

WickedWitchOfTheWest83 · 20/11/2018 22:19

Posting for updates!