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The tale of the toxic bridesmaid

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grincheux · 19/11/2018 14:34

NC for this.

I'm tangled up in a toxic friendship. It's coming to a head, and I'm not sure how to handle it. Apologies in advance, this might go on a bit...

Friend in question is the sort of person who is 'the constant' in every shitty situation which happens to her. Her life is a mess, largely engineered by herself, she falls out with just about everyone she meets and as a result doesn't have many friends and has cut contact with her own family, and tries to disconnect her partner from his own family. She's incredibly moody and manipulative, but I've stuck by her for years and been her only friend and support, which unfortunately means I'm also on the receiving end of that bad bits. I should make it clear that we are "close" - we see each other once a week etc.

She and her partner got engaged a few years ago after their DD was born. I've had five dates in my calendar for her wedding now over the last few years, none of which have actually happened. Cue plenty of time spent wasted looking at wedding venues and suppliers which she never actually intended to book. This year, she settled for a date over a year away and sent out save the dates. She then magnanimously announced to me that she "wouldn't be angry if I got married before her". I wasn't even engaged.

Fast forward a bit. DP and I are now engaged (hooray!) and are getting married... A few months before her. Our circumstances are completely different, we want to start a family and would prefer to be married first, you get the picture. When I told her we'd got engaged, she didn't sound as excited as a lot of other friends. She made it clear that her primary concern was my availability to help her organise her wedding now. I felt like I had to ask her to be a bridesmaid because she'd kick off if I didn't (it's highly unpleasant when she does, weeks of the silent treatment, snarky texts and strops). She doesn't get on with any of the other bridesmaids (or my family... or friends... see where this is going...) and has already upset several other people in our wedding party. On Friday night she rang me to complain about the other bridesmaids and threatened not to come to the wedding. She changed her tune when I told her that was "a shame but up to her". Same again when she said she was going to cancel her own wedding because "this is all too much" (I haven't actually asked her to do or organise anything).

She's been 'off' with me this week for no apparent reason and after messages from other friends asking what her problem is - I've finally had enough. I feel like I've almost been gaslighted by this woman for years and I've finally seen what a pain in the arse she is, and now she's putting me on edge about my wedding as well. I realise this is partly my own fault for carrying on pandering to her for as long as I have but it's too much now. She's upsetting me, and now my other friends.

AIBU to want to completely cut contact with this person? I don't even want her at the wedding for fear of her either sulking in a corner or causing some sort of scene... Far less than having her as a bridesmaid. I know what I want to do, I'm just not sure how to go about it. Whatever I do or say, I'm pretty sure she's going to be vile about it. Please help MMers. Sad

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Leapfrog44 · 21/11/2018 09:36

People dishing out advice make it all look easy but if you're a nice person (and you clearly are) it's NOT easy to cut off a friend, even a toxic psychopathic one.

I'd probably do it by text too.. Say it gently, wish her well, be kind etc And then just don't pick up the phone or be drawn into the drama that she'll try to generate.

Dillydallyer · 21/11/2018 09:42

Reading this I could have honestly written the first paragraph myself, until it came to wedding stuff. I also have a very toxic friend who falls out with everyone. Luckily we don’t see each often enough that it’s a problem, and we do actually have a laugh when we see each other. I don’t particularly trust her but she doesn’t socialise with any other friends or family so I’m good Grin

mamahanji · 21/11/2018 09:52

Felicia

So nice to know we have you caring for people with mental health problems.

It's mental health professionals like you that make it so easy for us to be ourselves and get the help we need 👌

Suebreo · 21/11/2018 09:54

Ditch the bitch

Clarabell100 · 21/11/2018 10:23

Well done op. I was in your position five years ago after a 10 year friendship full of negativity. Eventually I cut her out over something silly but I used it as an excuse. Of course, she moaned about me to the two mutual friends we have and said how ridiculous I was to do this over such a small thing, not understanding that it had just been the final straw for me.

Anyway, all these years on I still feel so glad I finally did it. I’ve never felt bad or regretted it as she brought nothing good to my life.

Enjoy the rest of your wedding planning!

ralfeesmum · 21/11/2018 10:42

Sounds like she's a fully paid-up attention seeker and you DON'T want someone like that at your wedding.

grincheux · 21/11/2018 11:13

BumbleBee that could well be it 😂 the other bridesmaids are getting jittery because they're finding her silence more unnerving than the barrage they were expecting. Either she's decided to go gracefully or is plotting like a mad person. It'd be comforting to think that being canned by her only real friend would be a wake up call and cause to reflect and maybe change her ways, but sadly I don't think she actually has that in her.

In some ways I'm glad I let it get too far because even if she did apologise, I don't feel like there's any way I'd want her back in my life now.

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browneyes77 · 21/11/2018 12:29

Is there a possibility she has replied to your text but because you’ve blocked her you haven’t got it and she still thinks it’s been sent?

So on an iPhone for example, the message still looks like it’s gone but you only know it hasn’t because it doesn’t say delivered underneath it. Unless she gets an undelivered message of some sort she wouldn’t necessarily know that you haven’t seen her responses. If she’s called you instead it would possibly go to voicemail immediately but you wouldn’t get that voicemail because she’s blocked.

Just wondering if she’s furiously typing messages not actually realising she’s been blocked and you can’t see them GrinGrin

grincheux · 21/11/2018 13:12

Possibly @browneyes77, because it's whatsapp though I don't think the two ticks to show it'd been delivered would come up 😊

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grincheux · 21/11/2018 13:15

There are so many ways to get in touch really, set up another account, come to my house, use a different phone, whatever... But she hasn't, so hopefully she's lost interest!

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RidingMyBike · 21/11/2018 13:46

Well done OP! I had to do similar with a ‘friend’ who actually had been one of my bridesmaids (and who was a bit of a drama queen on the day). She ended up ringing at odd times (think 2am) then getting upset when I pointed out that she’d woken both of us up and we had work to get to (only her job mattered, never anyone else’s). When I did end it with her she kept trying to get in touch wanting to ‘explain’ how it was all about what a difficult time she was having with xyz (always about her). In the end I blocked her and breathed a huge sigh of relief.

Hissy · 21/11/2018 13:52

you have done the right thing, and what's more, EVERYONE YOU KNOW thinks you have done the right thing!

Relax, if she DOES rear her toxic head - all you have to do is say "I've made myself clear, goodbye"

Ninabean17 · 21/11/2018 14:02

Well done op!! Brilliant response, you've done the right thing. Have a wonderful wedding.

MsAdorabelleDearheartVonLipwig · 21/11/2018 16:46

Just make sure you speak to every company and person involved with the day and insist that they do not take any instruction or interference from her. She may well be biding her time. Do not give her a single chance to mess anything up for you.

ZenNudist · 21/11/2018 16:53

I had a toxic BM and it was really upsetting. Glad you got rid OP.

Maisymoo22 · 21/11/2018 17:12

Good for you you’re well rid.
You could ring up your venues and set up a secret password with them in case she tries to cancel anything, just like a pp said she may.
In the meantime have a peaceful, non toxic life op and be sure to tell us of any further developments, which I’ve a sneaky feeling there could be.

coulditbeforever · 22/11/2018 06:38

Send her the whole text you’ve written OP and she can see your situation too , if you’ve had enough what does it matter what you do say, it sounds to me she’s going to be a spoilt brat about the whole thing. Best lighten your load and start living the life you want to instead of walking on egg shells with her for the rest of your life.

SheCameFromGreeceSheHadaThirst · 22/11/2018 08:38

Send her the whole text you’ve written OP and she can see your situation too , if you’ve had enough what does it matter what you do say, it sounds to me she’s going to be a spoilt brat about the whole thing. Best lighten your load and start living the life you want to instead of walking on egg shells with her for the rest of your life

The OP sent the message days ago. Confused

ArwenEdwards · 22/11/2018 12:28

She's got to go before she makes your whole wedding about HER and a miserable memory for you. Take her silent treatment as a cue to cut her off. If she contacts you just outright ignore her. If it gets to the point where u have to respond, tell her simply " I'm busy". This always works for me when I have rid toxic people. They play victim for a bit but keep counting down time and before you look around a year of blanking her out will be gone by. Concentrate on your wedding and children and let her carry on.

BumbleBeee69 · 22/11/2018 14:09

I agree with the comments about just confirming with your venues suppliers etc, that someone may call trying to change plans, ask that they confirm any changes with you by them calling your own mobile number. Flowers

Boxingmum · 22/11/2018 16:41

Contact all the suppliers, church & venues to let them know that a toxic bridesmaid has been cut from the wedding due to her behaviour & that you wouldn't be surprised if she tried cancelling or changing things, so if they receive any calls (anything big or small) from anyone (as she may impersonate you) then to call on your mobile number to confirm straight after request, or to ask for the agreed amendment password.

grincheux · 22/11/2018 18:37

She was only aware of the venue, we hadn't booked much else yet - and they've just emailed me tonight to reassure us that they'd always confirm it was us by ringing our mobiles. Everyone's been so lovely, especially you guys! A few days on, and still no noise from her...

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eddielizzard · 22/11/2018 19:02

I think she's in shock.

MsAdorabelleDearheartVonLipwig · 22/11/2018 21:13

Have you unblocked her number to see if there are any messages?

grincheux · 22/11/2018 21:42

MsAdorabelle would that work? I thought if I unblocked someone only messages from the point I unlocked them would show, not have a backlog come through...

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