To be fed up of mnetters behaving as if everywhere outside London is the third world

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Ok an exaggeration but only a slight one

I live up north. We have a John Lewis here and everything.

MissConductUS I allowed myself a little license since the DOJ ( with the FBI under its jurisdiction) currently has at its head acting-Attorney General Matt Whittaker who, depending on who you believe, absolutely is may or may not be a friend of POTUS.

To be honest I see London as being more third world than North. All the acid attacks, stabbing, 1/4 of the population born outside the EU. Yes there are nice parts but they are for millionaires and very few MNetters live in those areas.

Oh you mean the nice parts with only white people in them.

You have no idea how rude and ignorant you are.

I had never even heard of John Lewis before I became a MN'er.

#YankMumsnetter

RibbonAurora I can assure you that the FBI doesn't care much for Mr. Whittaker either.

Your post was very nicely done, by the way.

There are many amazing cities in the UK wihich are vibrant and great places to live.

@madnessIsay that made me laugh, I used to live about 200 yards from the Horniman and if you've seen it once, you've seen it 1000 times. Plus the cafe is hot, expensive and full of dreadful, entitled people shoving you out of their way.

@FannyFanackerpants71 we don't! No M&S or Sainsburys or Aldi or Lidl or Waitrose or Morrison or Debenhams or Iceland here either...

But we have nice scenery, its not all bad :)

I live in the NE. The three bedroomed houses up here cost £20 and none of us can read or write, but we all live near our families and are happy (in between being drunk and fighting) 😂

Ali1cedowntherabbithole I can confirm Loughton is on the central line, though it does not have the same weather as most of London, judging by the number of orange faces there!

@ElainaElephant 🤭 I can't believe this is still possible in modern day Britain. I've arranged immediate London aid for you and a Tiger Prawn Fan will be parachuted in on xmas eve, together with a veg platter ( the one where the tomatoes look like roses) and a packet of xmas tree favoured pork chops. I personally will add one of Heston's xmas puddings.. the one with a whole orange in the middle... and tastes vile.. & a complete rip off at the price.. as a sign of unity with you... from my own massive London purse. 🍊I've also written to the JLP and they have promised me that your scenery will be tarmac'd over and a Waitrose Superstore built on that green land in time for Easter. Thank god i live in London and was easily placed around the great and the good to arrange this for you all. Merry xmas to you Mrs Elephant. ✌️

I live in the north, I've never heard of Booths.

hmmwhatatodo That's because we don't know what t he hell an Oyster card is, or that you don't actually need one, cos we don't have them! Just as we don't have an Underground, or congestion charge...

When I want to travel into London I have to ask how the hell I do it as there are so many things I have no experience of. Out here in NotLondon we have cars, affordable car parks; some buses; no taxi (too far from the nearest large town) and no trains. So of course we have to ask about using the transport system. Just as visitors from London as us how the hell they are supposed to navigate round here!

One of the main issues Not Londoners often have is when the news is so London centric. It happens almost every day on all the news channels - a topic comes up and is discussed in relationship to the general public... mentioning issues and fixes that will only apply to London. It jars, makes you stop and think about why that apparently local issue is national news!

And then there are the wonderful threads within MN that ask realy weird questions about NotLondon, like why aren't NotLondon workers paid less so London workers can be paid more?

Let me think about that? Erm, there is a thing called London Weighting, so London workers ARE paid more, the NMW, NLW are higher in London than outside. And it isn't the fault of Not Londoners that London is so expensive... look at root causes, don't try to reduce the quality of life of everyone else! We aren't lesser than, are we?

I do live in a Deliveroo, taxi, McDonald, Starbucks, Costa, etc free town. It's great, very local and we have butchers, bakers, supermarkets and all sorts of mod cons. But visitors from the Great Metropolis tend to utter such gems as "How quaint, a real Olde Worlde town. How do you manage living here?"

Always makes me feel warm and welcoming...

We do have Deliveroo, Costa, taxis, etc. It's the north, not 1952.

I'm in the not quite Midlands, quite rurally, well, less urbanly. So we don't, they stop about 10 miles away in one direction, about 30/40 miles the other way! We manage quite well without them all, thanks.

But hey! If you want to think that means we live in yesteryear, go for it!

London weighting isn't a thing for all jobs, though. I work in London and I get paid the same if I did the job elsewhere. I've only heard of London weighting in public service jobs - nursing, teaching, civil service, etc.

So? The poster I referred to didn't seem to be aware that ANY adjustments exist. And, as I said, was asking why wages were not uniformly depressed outside London in order to divert money onto London pay packets.

Do you not think that an odd assertion?

tbf to those who struggle with transport in London, I massively struggle with trains on the rare occasion I visit another city for work. No rocking up & hopping on the next tube, you have to navigate the fare & route system where an earlier train may take longer then a later train & be more expensive than flying. Then you have the fear of missing your train so you arrive promptly at your London terminal but then the platform doesn’t flag up until 1 minute before the train is due to depart. Invariably you are waiting on the concourse at platform 3 (because the train always leaves from platform 3) & the train is actually leaving from platform 124. Then you get the seat jostling “I booked this table seat, can you move” or a passenger who is conducting their presentation on the table. Not to mention the changes that involve crossing a city centre to another station. Give me a “mind the gap” & “keep right” any day!

CuriousaboutSamphire

Do you mean taxis? If so, my mum lives in a rural part of the Midlands, they have taxis there, and did back in the 1970s when I was a small child. I'd suggest living in a place that doesn't is fairly unusual. If you mean the rest of it, they have Costa, etc. too, but obviously they are more recent developments.

I'm not doubting what you say, just saying that it is unusual. Until fairly recently I lived in a very rural area of Yorkshire (where rural is more rural than Midlands rural, if you see what I mean), and even I had access to such things.

I don't have a Booths though

Yes, Saskia I do mean taxis. If anyone needs a taxi it has to be booked days in advance and for a considerable journey or they won't come out... it can be an hour round trip into 'town', most drivers just won't do it, especially in their usual busy times.

I say "Midlands" very broadly... we are not quite Midlands, or West, or SouthWest or Wales!

"citiesofbismuth

I live in the NE. The three bedroomed houses up here cost £20 and none of us can read or write, but we all live near our families and are happy (in between being drunk and fighting)"
Ooh I'm in the NE we must be related. Come here so I can punch yer

no one lives in a fairly nice area 3 miles from town centre with average children going to an average school and being average or maybe good at maths but less than average with spelling and earns 30-45K a year and are doing ok nothing fancy but quite comfortable and their DH has good and occasional bad moments but their marriage is fine and so are their kids and they quite like MIL who they see with kids every few weeks

Ohhh I failed right at the very end!!

Why the fuck would anyone on this site need a bus at 3am on a Tuesday morning? Give your head a wobble and remember you're a mother and more likely than not - in your jammies on the couch by 8pm questioning whether it's too early to turn in or not.

#teamedinburgh

Probably people who start or finish work late at night Peeved. Plenty of people still out and about doing their shopping/coming from work. Even mothers!