To think that no employer is sticking a chip in me

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www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/nov/11/alarm-over-talks-to-implant-uk-employees-with-microchips?CMP=fb_gu

Is it just me or is this totally bizarre? The huge company considering this in the UK is reportedly Amazon.

The basic argument in favour of this invasive shite will be: if you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear.

Even if it never become compulsory it will be very difficult to live if everything relies on your chip. When you have to check in and out of work using it, use it to pay for things in shops (or on-line), access medical care etc.
School children are already being groomed into accepting giving personal information away - in many schools you can't buy lunch unless you agree to give them your fingerprint.

YAsoNBU

And those who go along with this warped version of social control - for whatever reason - are the sort of witless barmcakes that get right on my man boobs. Grow a backbone, stop kowtowing to selfish, aggressive, agenda-driven authority figures and think of your **ing childrens' futures.

FFS

No thank you, big brother is watching. This is scary and not something I would want thank you, if an employer wanted me to have one, it would have to be bye bye.

LakieLady You can see why they want to do it, a couple of people in know work 8-5 that’s their hours of work, but are never in the office till 9-30 and left by 3-00 apparently have clients to meet before and after, or work from home, but surprisingly are always spotted dropping and picking the kids up from school, nice work if you can get it

There is a load of stuff on the Internet about how the chips are “marks of the beast” as referred to in the Book of Revelation.

I would like my children to have the chip from their Oyster travel cards inserted into their wrist as it would stop them losing or forgetting them.

are the sort of witless barmcakes that get right on my man boobs. Grow a backbone, stop kowtowing to selfish, aggressive, agenda-driven authority figures and think of your ing childrens' futures

Hah. I want one so I can code it for ME. But you know, what do I know working for myself and all

There is a load of stuff on the Internet about how the chips are “marks of the beast” as referred to in the Book of Revelation.

LOLOL

I wouldn't have minded years ago. Now? When big companies like those associated with Facebook obfuscate and profiteer with our data, when CCTV in schools has been available on live screen internationally because no password set, when Google and Alexa record random bits of our conversations and these have started to be of interest in criminal investigations AND there is an increase in totalitarian governments (re-education camps for Muslim minorities in China being built on a massive scale) and when many people have no choice but to rely on employment on zero hours contracts or terms that previously would have seemed inconceivable, then I think we need to reclaim some civil liberties and fast, not unwittingly agree and assume greater safeguard s will be in place than actually are and play into the hands of those who would sell us down the river.

Why is it ok to microchip cats, who have no choice, but not ok to chip people?

So the owner can be found in order to pay the vets bill when the animal has an accident.
So that the neighbours can't steal your cat.
So when it goes missing it can be reunited with owner.
So it can be identified.
Humans don't have owners. I would be happy to use a chip in a card, on a necklace, on a brooch etc. But not actually have it implanted. So my employers can (possibly) see what I do out of work hours too.

OP YANBU! That is some Black Mirror level shit right there.

Right now you are free to choose to let the state know where you are. If you don't want them to know you leave your phone/Fitbit/devices at home.

To have it implanted gives up that choice.

Given that everything is hackable do you want foreign governments to be able to target you subliminally, know how you vote, know where you are, know what you buy?

Feel free to welcome 1984 but be really sure you know what that means

You're all bothered by this, but happily give your banks, doctors, governments etc all of your personal data. You give it to companies everytime you buy something, you give data away everytime you simply browse something online without even buying. This games on FB on how to get your stripper/game of thrones/cat etc name? They are phishing hacks. Any time you do a survey to enter a competition, it's all data. Your debit card can be stolen, your phone can be stolen, your house keys etc. All of your data online anywhere in the world can and probably already has been hacked. It's probably for sale right now on the dark web for £10.

This is no different.

No way and you can bet on the likelihood of it being low paid jobs such as my own which introduce it. I'd be willing to put money on it being call centres and the likes first. Most employers I have had already feel they can dictate when I am at work with very short notice rotas, go to the toilet including timing and go on holiday with strict guidelines. Boundaries are already crossed and this just takes the biscuit

Oh Santaclarita how is it the same? And if it the same we might as well continue to live without chip implants!

It’s a no from me. Plus I hate needles.

No need to scan chips for the government to monitor you. China is working on a wonderfully dystopian ‘social credit’ system. A low score will see you blocked from getting certain jobs or booking a plane or train ticket.

Apart from the control issues and bodily violation, surely there would be issues with allergic reactions?

Implants or wearables which may as well be implants
it's all coming
I'm already hoping that my Garmin account showing years and years of regular and intense exercise will get me on the fast track for some sort of rejuvenation treatment when it's available

Cyclingpast everything already has chip implants. Your phone is tracked by your contract company, your car has chips, your debit or credit cards have chips. There are devices out there that people use which just by going near your hand bag will take all of the details from your card and allow them to buy items. Every store notices when you enter a shop through the Id in your card. There are even advert boards going up which will change to display items an individual would buy as they go past, specific to that individual.

You've no idea how much they track you already. The implant makes no difference.

Of course if makes a differentce Santaclarita. And as I said, if it doesn't make any difference why bother with an implant?
I don't have contactless and I don't think anyone can read your information unless you have that?

But that's beside the point. Of course an implant have lots more potential consequences! Does your bank know your blood sugar levels at the moment? Or your blood pressure? Or how much excerise you've had this week. All things that could mean getting a yes or a no to your mortgage application in the future, if such information was available.
Can anyone easily work out how many sexual partners you've had at the moment? Won't be a problem if you have an implant.
Have you been on holiday already this year? Well, then you might not be able to book another one, you've reached your quota.
Have you already spoken 200 words today....well....that's your quota.

Books you might like to read: 1984 (Orwell) and The Circle (Eggers).

I've had a chip on my shoulder for years. It doesn't open any doors for me though.

Seriously - no fucking way is this a good idea. How about we chip the MPs and CEOs first?

Waving a chipped hand at a scanner sounds quite nice.

Until some ne'er-do-well overpowers you, takes your hand and waves it at your data for his own nefarious purposes.

I read this article this morning and was horrified by it too. All it takes is a piece of your data to be input incorrectly, and you'll be living in a real life version of the film Brazil. Imagine trying to correct something like that? No thank you.