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To believe there is no such thing as a female penis?

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Shriek · 10/11/2018 15:15

Ppl with penis raping, yet called women.
WTAF! Gangs of ppl with penis stamping on man's head, referred to as 'women'
Wtf is going on, has the world gone mad?

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Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 11/11/2018 15:51

Although im on a Christmas eve box thread saying what i think

So its obviously not every subject

Shriek · 11/11/2018 15:53

Yes indeed Aeroflot denial of stupid lies, a man is clearly not pregnant, bad reporting , clearly if a person is pregnant, that person is female that wants to call themselves male, but there ain't no escaping the truth of biology, clearly! Even if the papers do mispresent. The truth will out as it did there.
So I'm going to have to assume in fantasyland that it was some miracle of science previously undiscovered fact, that a man had sex with a woman and the man was the pregnant one!!! Just wow!

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NottonightJosepheen · 11/11/2018 15:54

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Shriek · 11/11/2018 15:58

.... intended sentiment ....?! Word games smoke and mirrors

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Shriek · 11/11/2018 15:59

#TWAT

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Aeroflotgirl · 11/11/2018 16:00

Or they had a womb installed into a cavity and a pesudovagina and cervix, so that they could be impregnated ooops by what egg would that be as men don't have eggs. Nottonight pervs can take advantage of any situation, give them an inch and they take a mile, that is why women are so up in arms about their safe spaces being infiltrated by those who have a body dysmorphic condition in which they feel like a women, but those who are: Daniel or Ben on Monday, and Carla and Alexia on Tuesday or wherever the mood takes them without seeing any specialist or councillor, and be fully intact with no intention of changing their genitals.

Shriek · 11/11/2018 16:02

Yes #TWATs

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Aeroflotgirl · 11/11/2018 16:03

Will allow pervs like your abuser into women's safe spaces, this is already happening, a woman's lake in London has to allow transwomen or those who identify as women in, but the same is not followed in the men's lake, where women who identify as men are still not allowed. It is about men's continued control over women. And to keep them in line, and make sure they don't go above their station.

NottonightJosepheen · 11/11/2018 16:09

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JAPAB · 11/11/2018 16:10

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer if someone begins with 'if I understand correctly' then they are not putting words in your mouth. They are being clear that the are presenting what they think the case is, without asserting it as if it is a done deal.

And if that understanding was incorrect then I have now no idea what you were picking me up on. Well, barring the extremely nitpicking point that I said the law says X and you took that over-literally.

So it is a bit like someone writing 'the law says that you cannot steal my garden gnome' and then picking them up on the ridiculously pedantic point that nowhere does the law directly and explicitly says you cannot steal someone's garden gnome. But it says enough other things to make it clear that this sentiment is correct.

As is the sentiment behind 'the law says you can be a woman and have penis' is quite correct even if it never says those EXACT words DIRECTLY.

JAPAB · 11/11/2018 16:15

To answer a previous question. All an archeologist digging up ancient bones can tell is the chromosome of the person. They won't be able to tell whether the original person IDed as a man, woman, non-gender binary, gay, straight, a Christian, an etheist, or a million other things that do not evidence themselves in your bones.

Not sure what that proves.

NottonightJosepheen · 11/11/2018 16:17

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PtangyangkipperbangOi · 11/11/2018 16:21

For people that maybe think this trans thing is real, and not just a trend, how do you feel about toddlers of 2-3 being able to decide their own gender and the parents actually embracing that and taking it seriously?

You think that could never happen ? Embrace the photoc and see i bring you the toddler penis packer, perfect your filling your preschool girls underpants so she too can feel like a real boy.

Now tell me that this is not being positively encouraged by adults.....and it IS going to produce a totally fucked up generation. Dr.Michele Moore has proven that transgenderism is socially contagious in the same way that eating disorders and self harming among teen groups were. This is NOT about being born in the wrong body.

Aeroflotgirl · 11/11/2018 16:35

We are not talking about heresay or opinions but fact. It is a biological fact that a Female does not have a penis, only a biological man can whatever the law says. I don't trust the law anymore since the GRA, it is just a joke really.

Aeroflotgirl · 11/11/2018 16:40

Oh god Ptangy that is awful, I am so glad that I am not a kid now. It is bringing the adult area to young kids who are too young to process this crap, and who are still discovering whether they are a boy or girl. In the 1980's I was considered a 'Tom boy', I hated girls clothes, I preferred boys ones (they were way cooler), wore my hair short and spiky, and preferred to play with boys toys. I never wanted to be a boy, that was me, and what i liked, oh and I also wanted to be a pilot too. I was left alone to do what made me happy by school. I am a biological Female and happy being who I am.

In 2018 I would be told I want to be a boy, and be referred to a gender clinic. I would be told that I am transboy and that I can have surgery and fully transition when I am older.

Aeroflotgirl · 11/11/2018 16:41

Ptang why would a young child need that rubbish.

PtangyangkipperbangOi · 11/11/2018 16:49

@Aeroflotgirl me too! I even applied to the airforce but back then it was the womens airforce and I was so mortally offended by the segregation I chose to protest by mot signing up. I was a total tomboy, short hair, always up trees, a whizz with electric circuits and electronics.....but I am also a perfectly happy adult human woman and now a mum of 4. I still rock the DIY and in no way am I trans......all as the trans thing does is reinforce harmful and damaging gender stereotypes.

Prawnofthepatriarchy · 11/11/2018 16:50

Not sure what that proves.

It proves that forensic anthropologists can tell the sex of any adult from their skeleton. Someone "identifying" as a man or woman doesn't override - and is far less important than - which sex they are. We are a sexually dimorphic species. The sexes have different health problems and treatments. We respond differently to certain drugs. Difference lies in every cell of our bodies.

You're on Mumsnet, JAPAB. Trying to obfuscate sexual differences isn't going to get you very far.

Tbh I've reached the point where as soon as I hear the phrase "I identify as..." red flags start waving.

I don't identify as a mother. I am a mother. I am British. I am a cat lover. The phrase "identify as" suggests dishonesty. To say that I identify as something immediately suggests that I'm not actually whatever it is I'm identifying as, however much I may want to be. When someone says they "identify as" a woman they are communicating that they would like to be seen as a woman, not that they actually are one.

The truth is that none of us control how others perceive us. I'm sure both the transwomen I know would like us all to see them as women but afaik nobody does. Doesn't mean anyone's mean to them. Does mean that "identifying as" is not the same as "is".

Aeroflotgirl · 11/11/2018 16:54

Oh wow Ptangy, a woman after my own heart, I love kickboxing, bootcamp, and go round in jeans, t shirts and trainers, I am not into the girly make up or nails, and I still wear my hair quite short as it is really fine and flyaway. Good on you for not signing up. I wanted a Raleigh burner as a kid and got a blooming shopping bike, had a skateboard, and always up the trees with the boys. It does reinforce damaging stereotypes, that to be Female you have to dress in a certain way and act a certain way, if not you are confused about your gender and want to be a boy. I am glad I was a child in more simpler times Smile. Most of my friends at school were boys, and would enjoy a kickabout the playground with the football.

Fairenuff · 11/11/2018 17:00

it never says those EXACT words DIRECTLY

Yeah. There's a reason for that.

Shriek · 11/11/2018 17:00

That is shocking and gross. It's not even a representation of a kids dick its of an adult circumcised dick, and sick

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bigbuttnheels · 11/11/2018 17:05

‘To be hated on’ is such a strange phrase....what exactly does this entail?

Aeroflotgirl · 11/11/2018 17:05

I swear Shriek, that my ds 6 year old penis looks nothing like that. They look like adult fully formed dick.

Shriek · 11/11/2018 17:13

Of course it doesn't, its like a kid carrying a dildo around. How is this shit legal, its bloody child abuse and sick.
Sick also of @JAPAB extreme language and twisting
extreme nit-picking when asked to specify the law that's important, then it isn't, then it is again.
Word games...
Rubbish
#TWAT

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Shriek · 11/11/2018 17:16

@bigbuttnheels saying you don't think there is such a thing as a female penis, and being called a transphobe is hateful way to treat people who simply disagree and will not be convinced, they are then hated on actively hated for their opinion

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