Sue Radford, baby 21 is here..

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21 babies! That's some achievement. I cannot believe her body is still in one piece. I feel sorry for those kids though. There's absolutely no way they can all have the individual attention they need growing up. Four kids maybe, perhaps 6 at an absolute push but 21 seems like collecting trophies for a hobby to me. It'd be interesting to see what families those children decide to have when the time comes. It seems like she's putting her own want for babies ahead of her existing children's wellbeing & that isn't healthy. I'm curious that she's practically guaranteed herself an endless supply of babies as her children have children. But they're supposedly paying for everything themselves so we're not allowed to say anything against them. I don't agree with it. Tell me I'm being U.

It’s not about disagreeing with me zzzzz but you just seem to be spectacularly missing the point of every single thing said, it’s really bizarre!

They are being unreasonable

I was told the same with my DD and she is an only

I don’t believe that young babies should be left to cry.
I would be interested in reading any research that showed that sleep trained (through cc or cio) babies had fewer synapses. There is obviously lots of research showing that babies who are consistently left to cry suffer but I’m not sure there is much research that shows damage from sleep training.

One parent takes one child. No need to take any of the others. That would be stupid. A visit to A&E isn’t a family day out

Except if ones at work, the older ones are at school you have to drag 3 or 4 pre schoolers a baby and the one who's sick with you..... then it all gets a bit hectic. Especially if it's a taxi job..

If it's an ambulance job the kid has to go by themselves while waiting for someone to get back or logistics with the kids who are home are worked out.

I have two young kids and often struggle to muster enough patience to deal with them, especially when the house is a disgrace. How she manages it and everything else you have to do in life is amazing to me (if incredulous). How does she have the energy to cope with it all?

See that's just another thing isn't it.

Why would you cause the main wage earner of the house to lose business for something as simple as taking a kid to a&e.

We aren't talking illness or disability where where it would obviously be a different set if circumstances.

But surely most of us , would perhaps call sone one from the hospital to sort out school runs, or call a grand parent to come.pick up the other kid we had to take with us , but we wouldn't have to wait for a husband/wife/older child to leave work just to get them to hospital in the first place.

Just another example of how the kids needs are pretty low down on the list of priorities and they have little regard to the problems having so many would cause

A&e with large family is hard work and I’m unsure why @zzzzz is asking this (given they said upthread that a large family would cope just like any working family)
A number of families take the whole family to A&e instead of one parent and the other staying with the other children. It’s utterly ridiculous. Terrible for the crowded waiting room, boring and pointless for the uninjured or well children and potentially putting them unnecessarily at risk for picking up other illnesses and bugs.
On one occasion I had to make a trip to a&e with all my kids. The staff were brilliant. And my children waited until my husband had got the message, left work early and came to collect them. But taking all of them with me, with a child who was very poorly was hardwork.
Every other time we’ve been just one of us has gone with the sick or injured child. And yes on one occasion a child who was ambulances to hospital after getting hit by a car, was taken alone and my husband went straight down. But the police informed us so we didn’t have an option to travel with him.

Well yes no one ideally takes their kids to a&e.

But there are obviously times where there is no choice. Even if partners can leave work straight away there is still lotebtiolly a bit of a wait depending on traffic and whether or not they would need to go home and get changed first. My dp would. Turning up to a&e covered in mud and sand is probably not the best idea.

The point is most of us haven't left ourselves in the situation where a situation like that would prove to be almost impossible.

I honestly think it's absolute madness to put yourselves in a situation where neither of you could cope single handedly.

Where you couldn't just nip to the shops to grab some eggs.or take a trip to the park.

Or god forbid have to head to hospital .

Once again you are completely missing the point. In that their decisions to keep having babies have left them in the situation where things that most other families do, fairly simple stuff they can't.

If your dp is sick it's a pain in the arse but you cope. Them deciding to go out for a drink with a friemd or you nipping off to go see take that in concert doesn't leave either one of you unable to cope at home.

Now yes they have the older ones. But frankly the level if help and assistance required from them is at the same level as the parents. If not more. Except they are their siblings not their parents. They shouldn't be responsible for kids they didn't decide to have .

If one of us was too sick to do the school run, we don't have to somehow source multiple smaller cars neighbours or family members just to get them there.

I guess a&e for a single parent is very hardwork. Particularly if they’ve more than one child.