Sue Radford, baby 21 is here..

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21 babies! That's some achievement. I cannot believe her body is still in one piece. I feel sorry for those kids though. There's absolutely no way they can all have the individual attention they need growing up. Four kids maybe, perhaps 6 at an absolute push but 21 seems like collecting trophies for a hobby to me. It'd be interesting to see what families those children decide to have when the time comes. It seems like she's putting her own want for babies ahead of her existing children's wellbeing & that isn't healthy. I'm curious that she's practically guaranteed herself an endless supply of babies as her children have children. But they're supposedly paying for everything themselves so we're not allowed to say anything against them. I don't agree with it. Tell me I'm being U.

How is locking them in not a fire hazard?

What happens when the children get gastro in the night, or need to wee or wet the bed? I accept that the big kids deal with the little kids but cleaning up vomit does necessitate a bathroom trip, doesn’t it? We’ve had some particularly grim ones requiring a 3am shower and full PJ change.

I’ll accept that the activities children enjoy aren’t necessarily essential, such as swimming, reading, sleepovers etc. However, ignoring kids’ night time needs is neglectful. It doesn’t seem very caring to me to not respond to a vomiting child, or one with a fever, or a nightmare or not let them go to the toilet.

Or is getting up to sick kids another middle class phenomenon?

@patchworkelmer I had HG with my first but did not have it with subsequent children.
@zzzzz poor care doesn’t equal removal by social services. Based on the footage put out (and on the assumption that you would presumably wish to be seen in your best light) the care of these children is hit and miss. It probably is satisfactory care and loving, but nurturing and individual time must be lacking. There are far worse parents. The reason they attract discussion because they are adding a child every year and they are courting fame and attention whenever they do. Baby =interviews and money.
Your school must be very odd as all schools are getting in trouble for persistent lateness and having to clamp down and it affects their attendance. It’s not about being arses. Starting to think you are just arguing for the sake of it.
Noel used to come home and do the school run but it seems from that vlog that day 3 of Baby, she had done the school run with 4 baby-preschoolers and all the Primary children, I feel really sorry for this lady. It’s like she knows nothing else. But that’s such hard work.

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@Fallingout Christ.

Sue does the primary school aged children's school run on foot, Noel does the secondary aged ones in the mini bus as it's too far to walk. I imagine that giving birth is so normal to Sue now that it is very much business as usual from day 1.

Fallingout that’s really interesting. Consultant has advised that it’s more than likely for me though- he said 85% plus. I had it from 5 weeks and was hospitalised almost immediately, then was ill throughout pregnancy. I just can’t risk the impact on DS- I think i’d Feel differently if I was able to at least function in the later stages of pregnancy. There’s also the impact on my mental health, and what more HG might do to me psychologically long term. I’m absolutely not knocking anyone who ‘goes again’ (my cousin is one of them), I just feel it would be irresponsible for me to do so, knowing what I do about how it affects me, and therefore DS.

But these aren't disabled children.

And it was never about safety.

It was their convenience that mattered.

Course it's not safer.

Not when there are options such as parenting the kids yourself and not locking them in a room with siblings knowing full well they will have to deal with any problems.

That's just lazy.

@zzzzz yes we have an autistic child who had a disability social worker. We had to use locks to keep certain areas and rooms safe, but never to lock him in his room and not with other younger siblings. A school he attended practised the ‘chill out room’ not locked but the handle on the inside was removed. They were investigated and this was condemned by social services. I can not believe there is someone trying to argue it’s acceptable.
The worrying thing is that they have fans who look up to them and may try to copy their style of parenting.

Even if they don’t claim anything (child benefit? Tax credits?) 21 extra dentist appointments, doctors appointments, school places and then the impact the amount of grandchildren they’ll have.
I feel sorry for the kids, it’s like as soon as ones not a baby they’re replaced.

Oh goodness, I was thinking of her the other day and wnderibg whether she has had any more...! Surely the next tv series is due then? Sorry, I’ve not RTFT so if this has already been covered then I apologise!

I cannot believe that they do not claim tax credits and child benefit - he's self employed so can set his own rate of pay. Surely her body must have had enough by now?

zzzzz, so why did SS come out to the family I reported if locking children in a room is fine? They didn't just come and see them they were going to do regular follow up visits.

I don't know what happened as the parents threw us out for reporting them

zzzzz, genuine question - did you lock your children in at night when they were small?

At about six weeks old we start to put them to bed upstairs on their own without a dummy so they learn to settle and go to sleep, putting them to bed without a dummy helps them go into a deeper sleep, they will cry for attention but just try not to go back in and comfort them,

Christ, a six week old baby being ignored and left to cry herself to sleep because she's not allowed to want attention. That's really quite horrifying.

That’s despicable. It’s a six week old baby!

It does seem like they hit 6 weeks and the parents lose interest and start planning for the next one

they will cry for attention

6 week old babies are supposed to get attention, it's what they do How have they not been had up for neglect?

Wow their children will all have attachment disorders.