Sue Radford, baby 21 is here..

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21 babies! That's some achievement. I cannot believe her body is still in one piece. I feel sorry for those kids though. There's absolutely no way they can all have the individual attention they need growing up. Four kids maybe, perhaps 6 at an absolute push but 21 seems like collecting trophies for a hobby to me. It'd be interesting to see what families those children decide to have when the time comes. It seems like she's putting her own want for babies ahead of her existing children's wellbeing & that isn't healthy. I'm curious that she's practically guaranteed herself an endless supply of babies as her children have children. But they're supposedly paying for everything themselves so we're not allowed to say anything against them. I don't agree with it. Tell me I'm being U.

Well we don't know if it's a solid marriage do we.

Where can you go if you split up with 20 kids in tow when you can't even do the school run by yourself?

Kind if forced to stay together really aren't they?

It wasn't to stop the tots escaping in the night, it was to stop them disturbing the parents in the evening. They were put into the cots in only a nappy with hair still wet at 6.30 and the handle removed. There was a camera in the room and they climbed out of beds/cots, removed the mattresses and sheets and were wreaking havoc. People often ask how they have the time to have more babies and this is how. They start the controlled crying at 6 weeks and then move them in with toddler siblings at a young age.

@zzzzzz
*If one child was in crisis, who would look after the other 15 or so children and sort out their needs while they had some time with their mum or dad?

Today 00:25 nolongersurprised

(I’m saying 16 kids as I’m assuming a few have left home.)

Today 01:06 zzzzz

Pretty much the same way children with working parents manage, or children with disabled siblings.
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I’m responding to this. Your comment at 1.06.
Of course they have a bus.

I will add I have a larger than average family and it was only when they started getting older that I realized how much time and attention they still need when they are teens. IMHO having 3 under 4 was the easy bit. Having 3 teens as well as others needing time/guidance/support with subject choices, organizing work experience and just general life is exhausting. Mine are due dental/eye checks soon and that in itself is a nightmare to co-ordinate.
Their dc are clearly well loved but I hate the way they wax lyrical about giving them enough time and attention when the children are saying the complete opposite. I don't know if they genuinely believe they do or they're just trying to convince themselves.

@tiredmumofmany where was this footage?

@tiredmumofmany I totally agree, with your post about teens and little ones. In fact I’m off now as way to much to do!

It was one of the earlier shows, possibly 14 Kids and Counting.

I think we do know it's a solid marriage. It's endured for nearly 30 years. I have the greatest of respect for that, it's more than I've managed.

All this judgement is based on 21st century norms. It seems that if people don't conform to those they must be awful people. Some people here need to broaden their minds.

I’m from a family of 9. We were poor but I didn’t mind it even notice but I do not have many memories at all of it just being me and my mother on our own. That makes me sad. They might love them, provide for them and have the highest ambitions for them but they physically can not give them the time they deserve. And YES to the pp commenting on the support teens need. I never realised until my own dc were teens how much they still need you.

Endured for 30 years?

Just think about it for a second

Neither of them can cope alone with their children.

If you wanted to leave where could you go with all those kids in tow?

How can you leave sone One or ask someone to leave when even getting them to school means you have to get someone to leave work to do it?

What relative has room for all of them?

What emergency accommodation would have room for all of them?

How easily would they be housed if they split up?

Do you really think that when you have to lock your kids in a room to avoid parenting them, either one of them would cope of the other left?

@zzzzz I was addressing how you would cope if there was an illness or hospitalisation of a child or parent and how that would and could be managed. And from my experience it’s very difficult and I don’t have anything like the number they have. If you have 2-4 kids to manage, then sure, someone can step in or one parent can manage if need be. But for me, when a child falls ill or I’ve been in hospital it really does impact hugely on my children and our extended family and one of the biggest difficulties is for example my dad can’t drive our bus, the insurance doesn’t cover him and to add him is very expensive and difficult, So he has a normal car, so he could not physically manage my school run, there’s no friends who could take responsibility for so many different ages and so my point is that by continuing to expand the family there will be impacts on those children, particularly those is the middle aged 8-15 who just have to get on with things.
If my friends disabled boy is admitted to hospital I can pick up her daughter for her. If my daughter is ill, my friend can’t pick up my kids in return.
@bluelady I don’t need to broaden my mind here, my personal circumstances give me insight and i think there’s enough footage to prove that their style of parenting is not necessarily one to aspire to (mine probably isn’t with but I’m not in the public eye)
I’m also not sure a 30 year relationship with a technically sexually assaulted child is that strong or sound. It’s not like there was any other options.

Why was nothing ever done about him having sex with an underaged girl?

They don’t have a strong marriage, they’re just stuck with each now aren’t they, no-one can realistically be a single parent to 20 bloody 1, she can’t even get them all ready for school in a morning!

I’ve just had a nosy on their instagrams and one of sues posts is a picture of dinner - 1 slow cooker of chilli and 3 takeaway cartons of rice between all those people?!
Then on one of Sophie’s pictures one of the teenage sons looks painfully thin
They’re all slim and small but this one in particular looks ill
So for everyone saying they have their basic needs met just not the ‘extras’ like homework and 1:1 time, I’m not even sure that’s particularly true, they don’t appear to eat adequate portion sizes and I imagine they can’t afford actual decent food and lots of fruit/veg, lots of 1 pot mince based meals and not a lot else it looks like ... and not even enough of that

As I said you use multiple small cars in an emergency. I’m not sure how many children you have@falling, but surely there are work arounds. Perhaps two drop offs with the older children waiting at home. I think there are more challenging logistics but they aren’t ALL in nappies or even all in Primary school

Most People barely even have one person they can call on to help let alone multiple.

And tbh it's a piss take isn't it?
"Grandad can you take kids to school"
"Oh and by the way it will take you multiple journies, and I need them.picked up aswell"

Slightly different senario than just asking a neighbour to take one of yours with theirs.

So primary aged children alone in a taxi?

Cos if it takes more than one load in a taxi as school days are busy you are lucky if you don't have to wait 40 mons for one let alone get a mini bus or multiple taxis