Sue Radford, baby 21 is here..

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Daily Fail story here
21 babies! That's some achievement. I cannot believe her body is still in one piece. I feel sorry for those kids though. There's absolutely no way they can all have the individual attention they need growing up. Four kids maybe, perhaps 6 at an absolute push but 21 seems like collecting trophies for a hobby to me. It'd be interesting to see what families those children decide to have when the time comes. It seems like she's putting her own want for babies ahead of her existing children's wellbeing & that isn't healthy. I'm curious that she's practically guaranteed herself an endless supply of babies as her children have children. But they're supposedly paying for everything themselves so we're not allowed to say anything against them. I don't agree with it. Tell me I'm being U.

Fallingout... yes, I do see your point. I guess I was speaking in relative terms given that I was expecting a Vicki Pollard type.

Is the daily mail article lying then as I just read it and it says they only get child benefit 170 a week

I thought there was a benefits cap though so surely they wouldn't get much more in tax credits anyway?

Can anyone do the sums as I based my previous view on the fact the weren't claiming tax credits but op said that's wrong but daily mail says only child benefit.

Confused!!!

You lot amaze me. This is the first time in 6yrs I've been riled by comments you have made about a family. It's none of our business what they do, how many kids they have or how much of a 'strain they put on the NHS' (utter twatting bollocks if you are a sensible human being with some grip on reality). Get over yourselves. Judgemental twats. Don't bother tagging me in any further waffle as I won't be reading this thread anymore. I've got better things to do with my Saturday afternoon.

Going by the child Ben rates online £20 for first child and £14 each child after does that mean they are claiming for 12 of the 21 children?

So if they are also claiming tax credits they are getting tax credits for 12 children including any disabled ones they haven't spoken about???

Daily Mail lying? Oh, let me think about that one.

(Thinks)

Yes.

Wouldn't the daily mail have to write a retraction at some point though?

Ah yes, insults and refusal to engage when people disagree with your opinion, that doesn't lead to trouble does it.

Oh, you get over yourself, @Lekky12. Everyone judges, whether they want to admit it or not. The Radfords arguably made it other people's business when they opened themselves up to numerous press reports and seedy reality TV shows.

Idk v confusing. Pp said they claimed tax credits on a blog that's now deleted

Did they claim working tax credits or what are that facts exactly? as these things have limits but...

I would like to know if this family are also lying to everyone or are they genuinely living off income from their bakery?

Their bakery and the £8840 a year in child ben

It says they spend 15,600 on food a year. They must have a mortgage too? Yet they took 20 kids to Florida but don't seem particularly well off.

Would just love to know some actually facts before I make any more judgments on them

They did say before that they claimed tax credits. I see no reason why they would no longer do so. I really cannot see that bakery making enough money to keep the whole family plus at least 2 older children work there so presumably are getting paid something?

Also there is frequent reference made to the fact that the bakery takes "just under" £50,000. I believe if you earn over £50,000 you can't claim tax credits but conveniently they don't.

I think if anyone genuinely believes they don't claim tax credits and manage to live on just child benefit and the magic bakery taking is very naive

Don't forget they have been claiming child benefit non stop for around 30 years now so no small amount.

@Ihopeyourcakeisshit Why?

They never fess up about the whole tax credits. It's bollocks. They'll be on legacy benefits coining it on tax credits for all the kids they had before 2017 who are still at home. And the CB, too. Bullshit they pay for themselves entirely.

Has anyone got a link to where they said that?

I'm just trying to calculate how much they would get before the benefit cap but I can't find anything or anything about them having disabled children

What’s the maximum number of children that people deem acceptable to claim WTC for?

I’ve never qualified for them or CB but the amount this one particular family get doesn’t bother me.

£8840 a year in child benefit

Just interested as you mentioned having a large family, I was interested that's all. Wasn't trying to be arsey or anything, understand if you'd rather not say.

This is what I would like to know also. I thought there was a limit recently in April 2017 about claiming for no more than 2 children but

There is also a benefit cap for how much in total anyone can claim

Hopefully someone who knows the ins and outs of the benefit system can shed some light on whether it's true or not

What’s the maximum number of children that people deem acceptable to claim WTC for?

Well, mum, the government decided the max is two kids (exceptions for a multiple second birth and rape) as of April 2017 so it's irrelevant what people deem acceptable.

You can still claim for children born before that April, 2017, so if they do then it will be a lot of money. The cap doesn't apply in certain conditions, either.

I'm just trying to do the maths. Has anyone got a link to where it says online they claim wtc because wouldn't it be capped anyone

How many of the children are disabled? What was the deleted blog called?

Just want to know some facts and if they are lying

dontalltalkatonce I just don’t understand why this one particular family’s benefits are so shocking.

Capped now!

I just don’t understand why this one particular family’s benefits are so shocking.

You don't? Because they can easily add up to half if not more than the bakery takes in, in other words, you and I are supporting them to sprog in the extreme and without this they wouldn't have been able to go on reproducing like this. This is exactly why the government put in the caps, because people like this abuse the system and feed the propaganda machine that's been used to sock it to the disabled and average working poor who don't abuse the system.

You're not going to get the facts, mum because they'll never divulge anything. They're not obligated to but you can bet it's a lot of money.