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AIBU?

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To think that if you’re told a phrase is offensive, you don’t insist on using it?

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changehere · 02/11/2018 21:02

Yes, a TAAT. The context is that we explained to mumsnet HQ that the phrase ‘beyond the Pale’ is found eyebrow-raising by many (but not all) Irish people.

The Pale was the name given to an area of Ireland under English rule and those outside that area were considered uncivilised aka ‘beyond the pale’. This is a phrase that is only used with raised eyebrows in Ireland and certainly feels inappropriate, if not offensive, coming from an English person.

Mumsnet use it as part of their racism guidelines as in that they only ban language that is ‘beyond the pale’. Mumsnet accept the origins of the phrase. However, they insist on using this phrase to describe whether something is or is not racist.

Given the context, AIBU in requesting that Mumsnet find another phrase in their racism guidelines?

OP posts:
SomewhereEast · 23/11/2021 10:16

All I can say is that I'm Irish living in England + have a degree in Irish history and I really can't imagine being offended by that phrase or taking it personally in the Year Of Our Lord 2021. TBH I just want to interact normally with people rather than have everyone second guess themselves about 800 Years Of Oppression

CreepingDeath · 23/11/2021 11:48

This is the most ridiculous thing to be offended about OP, I know its an old thread but I'm Irish and actually embarrassed that you're going on about this.

Userguaranteed · 23/11/2021 12:05

Well, OP is hardly 'going on about it' now, seeing as it's a thread from 2018 and OP hasn't commented since then. Someone decided to resurrect it yesterday for whatever reason but OP may have moved on (or not).

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