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To take DS out trick and treating with chickenpox?

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Cherubneddy1 · 31/10/2018 11:52

DS 6 is more excited about Halloween than birthdays, Christmas, anything else. But he's woken up this morning covered in spots; clearly chickenpox.

WIBU to take him out trick and treating, on his own away from other children, if I kept him well back from people's' doors? He would genuinely be excited just to see houses all decorated ( and his sister could collect sweets for him.)

He is very well in himself.

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Dorsetdays · 02/11/2018 11:35

The irony of someone calling others stupid when they feel it’s something to boast about that they’ve raise their DC using the c word....and even boasting that they’ve been clever and ‘sensible’ enough to also teach them when it’s appropriate to use it.

The answer to that is never. Its disgusting and derogatory and if you can’t raise your DC to have a better vocabulary and more respect for others than that then I feel sorry for them.

And I would not take any advice from someone who thinks that’s something to be proud of.

Cherub, I hope you had a good Halloween regardless of the silliness and hysteria on here and that your DS is soon on the mend.

Gilead · 02/11/2018 12:14

The irony of someone calling others stupid when they feel it’s something to boast about that they’ve raise their DC using the c word....and even boasting that they’ve been clever and ‘sensible’ enough to also teach them when it’s appropriate to use it.
Yep, clever and sensible. Her vocabulary is pretty good too, as her first in Lit proves. I'd suggest you do a bit of research regarding taboo language, it's really quite interesting.

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Cherubneddy1 · 02/11/2018 12:55

Dorsetdays he had a fab Halloween at home, thank you.

He's pretty miserable now with the itching but is holding up ok.

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Dorsetdays · 02/11/2018 13:25

Gilead. Someone can have all the degrees in the world, it doesn’t make them classy if they choose to use language like that. I’d hope that your DD’s formal education over rides that and has enabled her to express herself without resorting to abusive language.

Cherub Smile. Hope the itching clears up soon!

Gilead · 02/11/2018 13:32

No, she uses the language. She understands it. She's classy too. If you don't like it Dorset, I don't understand why you access a forum that allows it and where it's always been used. I'm not saying go elsewhere, but swearing has always been accepted here and it's a forum that's well known for it.

You don't get to make decisions about who is classy and who isn't. Your opinion is it isn't classy, it's just your opinion. Mine is people who are uptight about taboo language limit themselves and others. It's an opinion that's backed up by research. Personally I wouldn't want to mix socially with someone who didn't comprehend the uses of a wider vocabulary, but I daresay you wouldn't want to mix with me either. I swear a phenomenal amount. Still manage to remain classy. Oh and for really delightful language, hang about around some royal stables!

Wolfiefan · 02/11/2018 13:44

This wasn’t about taking a child for a walk FFS. The OP wanted to take him trick or treating. Unless trees hand out sweets this necessitates being around people. Confused

Dorsetdays · 02/11/2018 13:50

Wolfie. No the OP was very clear in this post you obviously didn’t read as she said she would keep him away from others & not allow him to go up to peoples doors.

Dorsetdays · 02/11/2018 13:53

Gilead. Nothing classy about using the c word or teaching it your DC either. If you google it you’ll actually learn it’s considered literally one of the most offensive words and is horribly derogatory to women.

PossibiliTea · 02/11/2018 13:59

Savage thread. YABU. But not deserving of some of the posts on here. Crikey. I know it’s mumsnet but...crikey.

Gilead · 02/11/2018 15:39

Ahh, google, the bastion of peer reviewed research.

Dorsetdays · 02/11/2018 15:59

Yeah, you’re right. A worldwide internet search engine is NOT the place to find research of any kind... Grin

Wolfiefan · 02/11/2018 16:14

Erm take him trick or treating? So knocking on doors and asking for sweets? How can you keep him away from other people?

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Cherubneddy1 · 02/11/2018 16:24

Wolfiefan, as has been pointed out MANY times on this thread, the proposal was to walk through the lanes and look at the decorations, not go anywhere near peoples' doorsteps. We live in a small rural village where there are no footpaths, it would have been very easy not to come within a few metres of people.

Having said this, I appreciate that the title of the thread was somewhat misleading but was clarified numerous occasions in the ensuing discussion....

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Wolfiefan · 02/11/2018 16:29

You said trick or treating. And a sick and contagious child shouldn’t be out infecting others who are out on the night celebrating. Stupid idea.

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Cherubneddy1 · 02/11/2018 16:36

Did you actually read any of my post Wolfiefan ??!!

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Singingtherapy · 02/11/2018 16:45

Well I read it. I haven't commented until now but the responses to a completely valid question have been completely insane! Mumsnet at its most vile. CP is caught by bodily contact or by droplets in the air from coughs and sneezes. Whether these droplets can travel through the open air to infect someone standing 15' away I have no idea, I'm not an immunologist. There is nothing on the nhs website to say that a child with cp shouldn't leave their house and go for a walk. The question was a valid one, worthy of proper adult discussion. Fact!

Dorsetdays · 02/11/2018 16:55

Singingtherapy. The NHS guidance for schools who have pupils with suppressed immunity actively encourages those children to return to school and recommends they should only be flagged for referral to their GP if they are known to have spent ‘a minimum of 15 minutes in direct, close, indoor contact with a known infection’.

I can’t therefore see how walking down a quiet village lane, in the open air and away from other people could in any way risk peoples health to the level that some of the posters on here have stated.

But then that wouldn’t be hysterical enough for some people on MN so let’s just make it up instead and deliberately misquote and misunderstand the OP...and then flame them for it!

SoupDragon · 02/11/2018 17:54

You said trick or treating

If you could manage to read to the end of the very first post, she said:

...on his own away from other children, if I kept him well back from people's' doors? He would genuinely be excited just to see houses all decorated ( and his sister could collect sweets for him.)

Wolfiefan · 02/11/2018 18:16

If lots of kids are trick or treating that really wouldn’t work. But hey why worry about us immunosuppressed folks. Don’t let us get in the way of trick or treating. If he wanted to see the decorations then you could drive around. Or else keep him isolated. As any decent person should do.
Went supermarket shopping earlier. Hope to God none of the “take him it’ll be fine” posters were wandering round with a sick kid.
It’s shit having underlying health conditions. People being a bit more thoughtful would make it a little bit less shit.

SoupDragon · 02/11/2018 18:32

It would work just fine. There are just groups of children, not a continuous crowded hoard. It's simple enough to keep a child away from others in that scenario.

It's not the same as a supermarket.

Dorsetdays · 02/11/2018 18:41

Wolfiefan. You obviously missed my post on the advice given to schools by the NHS which clearly states that if a child with a suppressed immune system is in ‘direct, close indoor contact with a known infection for at least 15 minutes’ then they should be referred back to their GP? Therefore anything less than that is not considered a risk.

Not sure walking past someone several feet away is quite the same...

Endofthelinefinally · 02/11/2018 18:54

I am immunosuppressed and waiting to find out if I have contracted chicken pox.
I spent all day in hospital yesterday, saw 3 different specialists, had loads of blood tests. Can't have the vaccine as it is live, they didn't have anything else they could give me as it is too late. I was exposed while travelling and unable to access medical assistance.
I have to wait and see and I am very scared.
If I develop it I will have to be admitted to hospital and have all kinds of treatment.
I will be very ill and I am trying not to think about the worst case scenario.
Since I have been ill I have been amazed at the sheer number of thoughtless, selfish people there are around.

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Cherubneddy1 · 02/11/2018 19:30

Endofthelinefinally, so sorry what you're going through, that must be really scary. But please see Dorsetdays post below.

I hope you get the results you need Endofthelinefinally.

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Wolfiefan · 02/11/2018 23:02

Unless Dorset is a specialist then I will continue to be cautious and hope people around me aren’t as blasé as some on this thread.
In a weird twist of fate DS caught chicken pox when immunocompromised. It was an emergency hospital job and we were lucky not to lose him. Some of you seriously underestimate the risk.

GoberALot · 03/11/2018 00:36

But please see Dorsetdays post below.

Are you joking? Are you actually suggesting Dorset knows more than immune specialists.

When you and Dorset have finished kissing each others butts, perhaps you could take a moment to take on board immune suppressed peoples realities.

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