DD (15) going to bed at 7am and getting up at 3pm?

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It's half-term and she has this sleeping schedule. It's driving me mad. Apparently she's "binge watching" all the latest stuff with her friends (they are on FaceTime, while watching? Wtf).

AIBU to put a stop to this?

well, she's only going to be on half term for a couple more days and then it's back to normal, so I wouldn't bother with the battle.

I did the same at that age, it fucked me up for a while, worsened depression and I became extremely lazy. I'd stop it.

Is it impacting on you? Your plans with her etc? If not i’d be inclined to leave her to it. If she’s waking you up and not getting up when you planned to take her out for the day etc then that’s a different matter

My teen does similar, so long as she goes to school I leave her be.

We don't have anything planned, but I think it needs sorting before half-term is over or surely she'll have like 1 hour sleep before going back

I gave up when mine was that age. It didn't seem to hurt though. I'd have loved the freedom to sleep, eat and enjoy whenever I felt like it, as a teenager which is probably why I allowed it with mine. Haven't regretted it, all is well now.

I remember being the same at her age, every time the school holidays came around I would become completely nocturnal and stay up til the morning talking to friends on MSN and then sleep all day. It drove my Mum mad when she got up on the morning to find me still up from the night before, she moaned about it but thankfully didn’t stop it, I don’t think I would have been very receptive and it would have caused arguments.

If she’s being quiet in the small hours of the night and not causing any trouble I’d leave her to it. Although saying that if she’s back to school on Monday maybe suggest she needs to try and get back into a normal routine before school starts back. Although it’s amazing how resilient teenagers can be to a disruptive sleep schedule and can just bounce back from an all nighter etc.

I'd try to encourage her to get back in a routine now before she goes back to school. Turn off the internet at 1am and tell her to sleep. I'm sure she will without netflix or FaceTime to distract her

Yep I would try and sort that out she will really struggle when goes back to school, my son did something similar years ago but not quite all night and his body clock was so messed up he was asking for sleeping pills at night when he was back at college

When I was a teen and lived at home I had to be in my room by 10.30pm , I could watch my TV but my parents were so sensitive to any noise I'd have to put on the subtitles.
I wasn't allowed my light on, and if I needed the toilet I'd have to creep out of my room and wasn't allowed to flush it.
It was horrible.
Dd can get food, drinks watch TV, use the bathroom, whatever, whenever.
I recall my Mum once saying it wasnt a hotel, no, it bloody wasn't, in a hotel I'd have been allowed to flush the toilet, make a cup of tea and watch prisoner cell block h.

My DD did this last year. Doing A levels now so I think she might not do it again next week, but I could be wrong. If we plan to go out she does try to sleep and get up in the morning and then sleeps in the car.

I used to lie awake, long before the internet and tech devices, most of the night and struggle to get up before midday. That did stop when I got a full time job at 16 but because I had to keep the job to pay my rent/council tax/utilities etc.

WTF? 15 year old's going to bed at 7am because they've been up all night Facetiming/Youtubing/Iging/FBing/Snapchatting whatever?
15 year old's phone charges downstairs on a night and the telly is a no go too.
Exams and all that.
What happens when back at school after half term? Have to get them up for the day presuming it wasn't a typo.

I would try and sort this and maybe think about how long she's spending staring at a screen. Maybe rules like devices not allowed in her bedroom after a certain time may be useful.

I'd say quite normal my 15yo stays up till 3ish gets up at 1pm if no plans it's not ideal but it's normal id say. Teenagers are weird creatures she's not hurting herself or anyone else and as long as it's just a half term thing I wouldn't worry not worth the battle.

cross posted with @herewegoalloveragain! I'm with you lol. Got a 15 year old and if he goes to bed at 11 more than a few nights in a row, he's an absolute nightmare.
Going to bed at 7.30 am?! Absolutely unthinkable here.

Surprised people this this is OK--she is a minor and her parents are supposed to make the rules. Even if it's half-term, surely she has some studying to do?

It's only a problem during term time or if she's visibly tired.
It's half term so why does it matter unless you have a full day of activities lined up for her tomorrow? If you go to bed at 10 and get up at 6, or go to bed at 1 and get up at 9 is it any difference to going to bed at 7am and get up at 3pm?

DD (17) is fairly nocturnal and also doesn't need much sleep. During term time she goes to sleep between 24:30-01:30 and gets up at 6.30. On a Sunday she sleeps for at least 12 hours. When she's tired she goes to bed no matter what the time is.

She's not a 'wild child' - mainly at home reading, studying, watching Netflix (all whilst being on instagram obviously 😀). Does well in exams and is perfectly able to self regulate.
During holidays she has been able set her own bed time since about 9 yo.

IF she wasn't getting up for school and her grades were suffering then I would take a different stance.

As for having no sleep the night before she goes back to school she will either decide that she needs to go to sleep or she will be so knackered that she will crawl into her bed the second she gets home and sleep for 15 hours!!!

My ds doesn’t last thst long but during holidays he will stay up to 3/4 and get up at noon. In Scotland, we’re back at school, he gets up no bother and he’s always getting good grades so I can’t moan.

Wish I could do the same tbh.

I used to do this when I was about 12/13 but it was because I had an injury so was off school for a year and very inactive. Ever since whenever I am left to my own devices I basically become nocturnal.

Not sure if it's because of an innate tendency or learned. My 15 yo dd does the same thing, she has a nap after school sometimes but goes to sleep about midnight. Ds1 is even worse, he doesn't have the sense for a nanna nap, but because he is younger his bedtime is controlled more during term times obviously.

I think it is unhealthy

I knew a 14 yr old who'd been excluded from school who became nocturnal. He was up all night playing computer games and slept all day (when other children he knew were at school). He was really depressed. [he's fine now, and doing really well - this was a few years ago].

But I do think that if it's doing no harm and is part of their social life, it's fine.
Maybe suggest a sleepover with actual people there, but otherwise, meh. I think it's fine. It's not interfering with life.
Does your DD have mocks soon? Should she be studying? If so, let her do more poorly in her mocks than she'd wish, and use this as an excuse to make up buck up more next Easter holidays when it actually matters.

So what if she's extra tired next Monday/Tuesday - she'll soon get back into a regular pattern.

I would not allow it.

It is not at all good for her physical or mental health - reverse of sleep patterns can lead to significant mental health difficulties, such as depression and can be a trigger for illness such as bipolar disorder.

I cant believe that so many are ok with this ... an unhealthy sleep pattern has massive implications for long term health.

Surprised people this this is OK--she is a minor and her parents are supposed to make the rules. Even if it's half-term, surely she has some studying to do

Definitely the way here, they're taking their GSCES next year and also in the middle of their mock exams. Expected to do at least an hour to two hours of independent study a night-- just wish my 15 year old would do that much study