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To tell you that it's Phillip Green who gagged the media! Named by MP using parliament privileges

239 replies

shouldidoitspoilt · 25/10/2018 15:08

Disgraceful .

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Louisianna16 · 26/10/2018 18:45

Oops that post was to ConcreteUnderpants!

Jux · 26/10/2018 18:49

Thank you, @limited, very clear.

AsleepAllDay · 26/10/2018 18:56

I think regardless of Hain's ties to the law firm it was right for someone to step up to this. The only reason why this wasn't reported news is that Green is rich enough to gag the media. Or was.

limitedperiodonly · 26/10/2018 19:17

I would not condemn people for wishing to break certain NDAs particularly if they concerned breaches of criminal law.

As previous PPs have said, a PDA or Compromise Agreement often comes at the end of a very long and bruising time when you are up against a huge entity which can string proceedings out and tie you up in legal costs responding to their limitless legal pot. It's a very frightening time and these companies - household names - are entirely ruthless.

When I got my money people would have said I did really well. But double wouldn't have come close to what they did in terms of suffering at work, the time it took to hold my nerve while they were threatening me and the impact on my career and subsequent rebuilding.

And they didn't even commit a criminal offence. So bollocks to those naive people who bleat: 'Ooh! Why didn't she just go to the police?'

curlyrebel · 26/10/2018 22:15

I think it's really easy to say let's boycott all his stores, but if we did that then we would have even more staff losing their jobs. But this nasty man will still be cruising around in his yacht!

How about we start by changing the system that allows him to get away with that behaviour? There is this petition going round.. https://speakout.38degrees.org.uk/campaigns/4575?

mrcharlie · 27/10/2018 07:18

Let us all hope Mr Green upsets the Saudi Royals

Xenia · 27/10/2018 07:28

It sounds like Green has not committed any crimes. He is reported to have called women love and sweetheart and thus been a bit of a dinosaur in the work place etc. Now you may well be able to prove that is an employment law breach but it is not a crime so those saying let us change the law so that a secrecy clause relating to an alleged crime (not proven in court) presumably do not apply that to this kind of thing?

Or should we ban all secrecy around employment and indeed other legal disputes like your divorce finances or your dispute with your builder?

Unfinishedkitchen · 27/10/2018 07:40

People will not lose jobs if we boycott his stores. Rival stores or new entrants will rush to fill the void as the customers/demand will still be there. They’re probably chomping at the bit to hoover up the teens who want to buy overpriced, badly made, disposable clothes. The staff will get jobs there.

user1457017537 · 27/10/2018 07:40

Xenia surely he hasn’t had to make large payouts for calling women love or darling!
Has the world gone mad.

user1457017537 · 27/10/2018 07:42

Unfinishedkitchen who is going to rush to fill the void in the High Street if Philip Green departs? You have noticed the decline in retailing recently presumably. It would probably be a relief to him not to have to bother.

AsleepAllDay · 27/10/2018 08:54

@Xenia are you reading the news, women are describing him touching them uncomfortably (long hugs), making jokes about being 'naughty girls' and being spanked & sent the former pensions minister (a woman) bullying text messages at all hours - and these aren't even what's covered by the injunction. There is worse to come and yes it will be more shocking than using pet names. Don't try to start a moral panic - there will be plenty of evidence and it will not be good.

He spent £500,000 to cover it up & paid settlements - it will be information with the ability to damage him

larrygrylls · 27/10/2018 09:51

Xenia,

Secrecy should not be seen as the norm in a democratic society. It is especially worrying when the powerful are insisting on secrecy from the less powerful.

I am really not sure that employers should be able to gag ex employees from telling the truth in return for a payout. If the ex employees are malicious and lie the libel/slander laws already exist to protect the company. And, as I said, the NDC or NDA is not usually to protect the company (I.e shareholders) but powerful employees who have misbehaved.

When there is good reason to allow secrecy (e.g children involved) then by all means allow it. The default setting, however, should be the onus on the person demanding secrecy to prove they have a good reason for it, not the reverse.

EnthusiasmIsDisturbed · 27/10/2018 10:27

He is or was a very powerful man that once again abused his power

His arrogance during parliamentary commission questioning was astonishing and then he somehow wangled/paid for ITV news at 10 to devot the first 20 minutes of the news to his manipulated reporting and interview with a fawning Robert Preston

Wasn’t anything learnt from Maxwell and the millions he gambled away without a care for who really suffered

Maccycheesefries · 27/10/2018 11:17

I really hope they go after him, it was disappointing that they didn't after the BHS fiasco. The U.S. authorities caught Al Capone on tax evasion charges rather than being a mafia boss. I hope they catch Green in a similar way, he'll be clever and fight it with the best lawyers. If they don't prosecute him then it's a green light to all the others who behave similarly.

Iused2BanOptimist · 27/10/2018 11:20

Hit him where it hurts. The high Street is suffering. Top shop profits are down. Boycott all his shops.

cantquitebelieveit12 · 27/10/2018 11:32

they should take away the knighthood, he is quite insecure & loves the cache of being a Sir.

ForalltheSaints · 27/10/2018 11:40

I hope that those who have suffered any assault, threatening behaviour or worse from Mr Green go to the Police.

Maccycheesefries · 27/10/2018 12:10

Is he a British citizen if his main residence is abroad? Has he given up his citizenship so he can be a tax exile?

cyclehelmetuse · 27/10/2018 16:29

There must be many MN posters who work or have worked for Philip Green in stores and head office or have friends and family who have done so. Has any one of them ever said that his behaviour is appropriate? I have never met anyone who has. Please do post here if you have had a different experience working in retail.

mugalug · 27/10/2018 16:47

@cyclehelmetuse I have been told of absolutely shocking behaviour from people working directly with him.

toweldramas · 27/10/2018 17:26

nc obvs, I worked for a previous company he owned & in the head office of one brand & truthfully there was little contact day to day, i.e he would not know all the stock going into stores & what we bought. However we were somewhat shielded from it as we performed very well & the directors were good at keeping him at bay, BHS staff would have got it a lot worse for example. He is old school in his ways & manner, shouts a lot & likes a tantrum, but could also be nice. Tbh I think his style is very much the normal in the higher echelons of the business world.

toweldramas · 27/10/2018 17:31

However I will say that as I only know the working world of fashion & banking/finance my experience of management styles may be slightly skewed!

Xenia · 27/10/2018 18:29

Let us wait to see the facts as ever. Some of the women supported his application to keep it quiet. I don't know if the final hearing will go ahead now the disclosure in Parliament has gone ahead however so may be no facts will come out. Currently the injunction still applies and the Telegraph which is the one wanting to publish is warning people to be careful and that's true. You cannot breach the court order even now. We are not MPs.

Every day of the week old fashioned boasses call staff love and or make crude jokes. They certainliy should not but I have not so far seen anything particularly very bad - the kind of rape type activity that would make most of us feel the law should be changed (in cases where the case is proven) where an NDA is not appropriate.

If we remove confidentiality from employment NDAs then most companies will choose not to settle to be brutal about it so alleged victims will not get their money. so we need to be very careful a law change does not backfire.

cyclehelmetuse · 27/10/2018 18:47

I just wondered if anyone had ever worked directly with him and not heard the type of comment that he should throw them out the window they were so useless but they would just bounce back in as they were so fat? Just because it is not rape does not make a certain type of management style totally unacceptable.

Jack65 · 27/10/2018 19:13

I was bullied mercilessly by a senior partner in the firm in which i worked as a solicitor. It was horrendous. Meetings took place with him about "my future" during which personal comments about me were made. I was also required to lie about a case which I refused to do. It's an easy way of getting rid of people without paying redundancy payments because in the end you are desperate to go. I was gagged with a compromise agreement but I take great delight in telling people to avoid this solicitor llp.

Philip Green has already demonstrated his total lack of integrity and it should be interesting to watch yet another load of people distancing themselves from him. I wonder how Kate Moss feels.

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