To think this racist should have been kicked off this RyanAir flight?

[WickedGoodDoge]

I’m not going to repeat the language this passenger used here, but basically he refused to sit next to a black passenger resulting in her being moved and staff asking the man if he was OK once she was moved.

RyanAir have released a terse statement saying it’s been referred to Essex Police

www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/amp/entry/daughter-of-ryanair-racist-abuse-victim-speaks-out-following-on-flight-attack_uk_5bcb4379e4b055bc94811e92/

It’s been reported on that Ryanair still hasn’t apologised to the poor lady.
Please sign the petition

www.change.org/p/ryan-air-stop-flying-with-ryanair-until-they-issue-an-official-apology-from-ryan-air-to-mrs-gayle?recruiter=907178904&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=copylink&utm_campaign=share_petition

The world is actually this shit. It feels like that sometimes 

Poor woman. I wish it was me sitting there instead!! I would never move and id give him a strong piece of my mind and also those silly ryan air cabin crew

The thing is if this had been a black man abusing an elderly white woman he would have been removed from the flight . Drunkenness and mental health wouldn’t be mentioned
We have all heard the cases whereby men of Asian appearance have been removed from some flights because people feel ‘uncomfortable ‘ despite the fact that the Asian men were just sitting there minding their own business
My dd travelled to Spain by Easy Jet ( school trip) and told me that herself and her school pals witnessed an incident whereby five white men abused an Asian man calling him ‘ a terrorist’ and ‘ISIS’. The cabin staff did absolutely nothing. It took a bunch of fourteen year old school girls to intervene and tell the five men to shut up

Btw some of the apologist for his behaviour should put themselves in this poor lady’s position. She had lost her husband of fifty years, one year ago. Her dd took her on this trip to take her mind off the impending anniversary . If that was your grandmother or mother, you wouldn’t give a hoot whether this vile man has learning difficulties or was drunk.
Furthermore, this man is actually a danger to other passengers too. He should have been removed

Just been on FB and seen some of the comments under the This Morning video posted about the lady who was interviewed on there this morning.
Even the nice supportive comments have laughing faces underneath them
What the fuck is WRONG with some people, what with reading some trans threads today and now racists/apologists out in force I'm starting to despair for humanity.
Social media can be the dregs sometimes.

Verbeena Two totally different cases: 1 is criminal, 1 is just different opinions to yours

If there has been any illegal hate speech on any trans threads you should report it immediately.
MN would probably ban the poster concerned

If you are angry about posts that transwomen are not women - that is biological fact

or about posts saying that transwomen / men shouldn't be allowed in single sex women's safe places - that is allowed opinion.

It would be illegal if that man had sat next to a transwomen, insulted her with bad language for being a tranwoman and threatened to push her out of the seat.

It would be legal and acceptable for that man to post on MN that he is against immigration

• he would be told a lot of facts, history & statistics by some posters, but if he stayed within the MN rules, all his posts would stand.

That is the difference between hate crime and debate

The thing is if this had been a black man abusing an elderly white woman he would have been removed from the flight . Drunkenness and mental health wouldn’t be mentioned

Actually just been thinking that whilst reading some of the comments on FB.
One was along the lines of "he might have mental health problems" - would people be saying that if a black man had ranted at an elderly lady?
I'm betting much of the responses would have been so much different.

elderly white lady that should read

having her skin brought into it and verbally attacked.

Yup, I posted similar earlier.

I suspect those MN posters minimising the crime would be posting something quite different if a black man had abused a disabled elderly white woman

(Probably Ryanair would prioritise profit over any colour though - they only see money)

The thing is if this had been a black man abusing an elderly white woman he would have been removed from the flight

Or even a white man abusing an elderly white woman.

Is it just me or does he look like he'd really smell of arse crack?

Ryanair needs to be sent and to send a clear message that this kind of behaviour is unacceptable. I don't care if this man was mentally ill or whatever excuses are being made - that does not make you racist anymore than your meds or alcohol.

I don't care if this man was mentally ill or whatever excuses are being made - that does not make you racist anymore than your meds or alcohol

Exactly, you'd have to hold those views already to be able to come out with stuff like that in the first place.

areyoubeingserviced your DD sounds brilliant, you should be very proud of her

Once again, no one has minimised or excused this man on this thread.

Once again, no one has minimised or excused this man on this thread.

Have you read the thread? People clearly have. You either haven't read it or don't want to see it.

Oh, done be so bloody ridiculous, Verbeena. I was one of the first few people on this thread and I've read every single post on it - more carefully than most, it would seem.

Hadenoughofallofthis

I did see a few apologists on here, too, and I read carefully.

Are you talking about people observing that the man concerned may have some sort of medical/mental issue?
In addition to being an abusive racist?
I fail to see how that is apologising/excusing/minimising.

A couple of years ago, my ds (then 15/16) stood up to a man abusing a woman wearing the burka in the street. I don't agree with the burka but no one should be abused in the street for their race, age, disability or life choices and I was proud of him for doing that.

Hadenoughofallofthis
There were some people who thought she might have provoked him, others who didn't believe he called her those things, and one who claimed her brother was on the flight and said the woman sarted it. Not a lot, mind you. Most of the thread has been on her side.

*STARTED it, not sarted