to think DS' school knows something the rest of us don't about Brexit?

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This isn't a trip for his year group but they are organising a language trip to an EU country by air, leaving on, guess what, 29 March!

I think they come back on 3rd April or thereabouts.

I am a bit surprised to say the least. Do they have inside information that there will be a deal? They've also got a EU trip planned later in April but that was organised months before all this latest no-deal furore, and another one in July, but I'd probably expect things to have been sorted out (to an extent) by then, although they might have to get visas for the British passport holders at shortish notice.

Leaving on 29th seems like playing chicken to me; the kids (and teachers!) might not be able to get back.

Yeah because Spain is just stag and hen parties...

C'mon people use your brains, money talks and all countries need planes in the air.

Yabu completely. Do you people actually look for stuff to stress about? I'mean not pro Brexit but this is just ridiculous Internet scaremongering. Get a grip.

Spain will suffer a little bit
but it will fill the spaces with East Europeans, Chinese, Asians and Americans
no it won't. do you not think that if those people really wanted to visit Spain they would have been going there in huge numbers already?

are you the same vandrew who thinks a no deal isn’t going to affect Planes and ferries?
Where are you getting your information from?

Oh I'm quite tempted to book a holiday on the 29th of March now. Really like the idea of being locked out of Brexitland.

Spanish hoteliers are not in a position to force a deal.

The Spanish Government is among those that have instructed Barnier and Tusk to get a deal that upholds the four freedoms.
At the moment the UK is not willing to strike such a deal.
If there is no deal it will be because of the UK not anybody else.

The EU does not want the UK to leave.
The EU did not want Tresemme to invoke Article 50
Only the UK government can make it pan out.

THe EU is where it was in June 2016
THe UK still does not know where it is.

Someone quoted the first part of this up-thread, I though I'd quote the full sentence and highlighted the important bit.

The French government has confirmed that British citizens would need visas to visit the country under a no-deal Brexit without emergency legislation or special agreements.

So what they're saying is, there'll be a problem, if no-one does anything to stop there being a problem. The latter is trivial to do and can be done without negotiation. I would guess emergency legislation would take a negligible amount of time to pass, and has probably already been drafted, as a contingency.

Where are you getting your information from from innate common sense

No need for legislation.
Its all covered in the Henry VIII provisions in the Withdrawal bill.

Deals will need to be reciprocal though.
If the UK wants complete control over its borders
the EU countries will have to reciprocate.

@Firesuit perhaps stop believing everything the politicians are saying.

Remember the shit from both sides before the vote.

It's in both sides interest to make the public panic

LOve reading posters who state that they know everything will be ok when the government statements are setting out what problems there will be in the case of a no deal, including travel problems, no flights, etc.

European governments are now making their own plans for the uk having a no deal. It appears that their planning is significantly further advanced than the uk. There is no way that May will get a deal through with an extension to the back stop and Northern Ireland border issues.

Spain will suffer a little bit
but it will fill the spaces with East Europeans, Chinese, Asians and Americans

Just when you think you’ve read all the shite you’re ever going to read.

Spain will suffer terribly without UK holiday makers.

FACT.

So what on earth do you think Spain is going to do about it surferjet?

And Disneyland. Don’t forget Disneyland.

So for the above reasons everyone should sign the online final say petition and try to go on the march in London Saturday for people's right to be involved in the final deal

This reminds me of the millennium bug

Spain needs us
Disney needs us
It’s just like y2k

Hard-hitting political analysis from brexiteers.

2 million brits holiday in Spain every year... get a fucking grip of course they need tourism... Spain has little else

Except the world's largest textile company - Zara
And one of the world's largest banking groups - Santander
And Telefonica - 02 mobile phones in the UK
And IAG - the world's favourite airline (BA in the UK)
And Seat cars
And Ferrovial - who own Heathrow, Glasgow and Southampton Airports and transport systems worldwide
And numerous infrastructure companies worldwide - e.g. Amey in the UK
And so on..

Which is why Spain, in common with all of the other EU countries, places more value on the unity of the EU than in accommodating the UK's demands for exceptionalism.

surfer the ONE country in the EU that is gong to suffer and suffer very badly is RoI.
Economically they are going to suffer nearly as much as the U.K. despite the fact they’ve never voted for it nor ever wanted it.
But the country that is going to suffer is the UK first and foremost.

That is really a fact (claps not necessary)

Spain and Portugal and Germany might suffer a bit but they will recover. I’m not worried about it and nor are they/the EU btw.

News comments today whilst May is in Brussels. “there are fears of chaos at cross-channel ports and airports as customs and aviation agreements fall away. The Bank of England has warned the UK economy would take an immediate hit.”

With regards to Aviation only - the position last week was that whilst industry leaders, member state and non-EU member states want to get on with making agreements to overcome and negate any negative impacts of Brexit - Deal Or No Deal - the 'fly in the ointment' is that the EU Commission are stating that EASA can't negotiate until Brexit negotiations come to 'agreement'.

Simple as that. Dress it up, dress it down, package it Remain or package it Leave that is the current case.

There are many, many aspects other than Aviation that also require negotiation and agreement for Brexit. But this particular aspect is one that does reach well beyond the EU and although continually screeching "legal agreement" as a cause for complete disruption may be valid for other spheres, not Aviation.

Where are you getting your information from

from innate common sense

It's in both sides interest to make the public panic

Why?

I am not panicing.
I am gobsmacked by how unaware of the facts of the Brexit papers many posters seem to be.

No Deal will be very bad for the UK,
particularly 99.9% of those who voted leave
(Rees Mogg and Co have already moved their wealth out of the UK) Understanding that and trying to make people realise that they have to hassle their MP to make sure that ordinary Brits are protected
is innate common sense

My geography lessons must have neen rubbish as I always thought Britain was in Europe. So, when did we change location that we will no longer be in Europe and therefore no longer in the America/Europe open sky arrangement.