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To look at that woman who is going out with Katie Piper’s attacker and think WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU???

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Gingerrogered · 16/10/2018 15:50

Story today in a few of the papers that the man who acid attacked Katie Piper has been released straight into the arms of his new woman who has been merrily instagramming his first weekend of release holed up in a ‘luxury hotel’ complete with the obligatory doggy eared snapchat with ‘LOVE’ written across the bottom of it.

Leaving aside that she is a mother and associating with a violent ex con is going to go down like cold sick with SS, why do some women do this? I just can’t imagine looking at those awful injuries Katie Piper has and thinking ‘yep’, he’s the man for me, the feller that did that!

Do they think they’ve fixed them or they’ve changed or do they believe it was the victims fault? It’s crap that we have Clare’s Law now but some women are going to fall victim to repeat offenders because they know, they just plain don’t care.

Where are we going wrong? Why is the message about how dangerous this is and how awful domestic violence is not getting through to some women? Do we need to have more intervention in schools? Survivors going out to explain what their experiences were really like? Or is it a self esteem issue? Or are some people just plain stupid?

It’s depressed me a lot this afternoon. Stupid, stupid woman.

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Gingerrogered · 16/10/2018 23:40

I don't know the name of this man or what he looks like. I'm sure plenty of people don’t

How many people meet online dating these days? Without any context? Where you are only meeting one on one? You only know what they tell you?

It's pretty easy to see how a woman could be dating someone for quite a while without having any idea that he is a notorious criminal.

He was in fucking jail. He only got out on Friday. No internet. No telephones. Either she’s never met him or she’s been to visit him in jail. Given that she’s been through some form of marriage ceremony with him either she married a man she’d never met or she visited him in jail. She’d have to know his real name to visit him in jail and you’d think she might have had sense to google?

Sorry, but saying she couldn’t possibly have known or was too far into the relationship and trapped before she realised is patent nonsense.

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Gingerrogered · 16/10/2018 23:42

Well, I'd like to think it's all a clever ploy on the woman's part, infact she's just winning his confidence, once won, she'll get him pissed and take his face off with a blow torch

I am judging myself for being a very bad person for laughing at this A LOT.

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StoneofDestiny · 17/10/2018 00:08

I don't know the name of this man or what he looks like. I'm sure plenty of people don’t

Do 'people' not read the Newspapers? Just about everything about this thug is on the internet - articles include what he and his new 'wife' look like. What do 'people' think a man is sent to prison for many years? It wasn't for being a model citizen.

kateandme · 17/10/2018 00:39

I don't care whether they say hes had helped or changed.noone changes from doing this much harm.you have that insdie of you in the passed or now to do that to someone.you are evil.
and people saying it wasn't the ex and he was just paid for it...so he new even less on the emotional situation and just did this for money or larks!not any better.youve then done a possible fatal gruesome act just for the hell of it on someone say so.

yesyesyess · 17/10/2018 00:44

I'd like to think SS are looking into this. I for one don't think he's safe to have around her children.

Its regretful she has children being so stupid.

kateandme · 17/10/2018 00:47

a bad background can srew you up.make you mentaly ill even.sad.depressed.anger problems.but there is a fucking huge line which means you don't maim someone and have that excuse

SleepingStandingUp · 17/10/2018 00:56

This woman has likely seen the “nice” side of this person (whether he has a nice side or is just acting can be up for debate!)
She has sought him down in prison!! She didn't meet him in Starbucks or on Tinder! She's gone out of her way to forge a connection with a piece of low life scum who maimed a woman for money. Not even out of anger or passion or actual emotion. Just for cash. Clearly no reason is good enough but it takes a particularly cold heart to do that for money to a complete stranger who has never crossed your path.
I hope to God that kids Dad is about somewhere and has enough sense to fight for him. She sys hacked up in a hotel with him so presumably someone else has the kid, hopefully thry don't give him back

NotMyNameButHereForever · 17/10/2018 01:52

The balderdash about how long it takes a woman to discover man is abusive etc etc etc - none of that applies here?

She 'met' him when her friend's DH was inside and was a mate of this piece of scum - piece of scum asks his mate if he knows any single girls, mate asks his wife in a call from the prison, and whaddyaknow.... her mate who is there then IS single and wants to say hi to the guy. Cute huh?

So THAT is how she 'met' him - through choice, knowing where he was, who he was, and what he was in for. And they're not 'married' - there was some farce of an 'Islamic ceremony' on the outside where she exchanged 'vows' with one of his relees in his absence. And d'you know what? Hands down I don't think he will marry her. Hopefully she won't be assaulted before it ends, but the second he can do better (& this is where PP's are right, there are actually women who seek this madness out) with the next one he meets, he'll do one.

Someone upthread wrote (in answer to OP's Q) ^Because she's thick and she's desperate' and I'd agree with that. She's a work shy lard arse who thinks she's cool with her 'hot' 'husband' and who is utterly SHAMELESSLY posting pic after pic of them in their 'hotel (near his bail hostel that he has to be in between 9pm and 7am). She is bereft of just everything from moral compass, to decent parenting, to depth, to even fucking looks (let's at least be honest here).

She is literally LAUGHING at people right now - she's thick but she's estate wise (anyone that either lives on, or grew up in, an estate like I did and like the one she's in will know exactly what I mean by that) and she 1000% knows what she is doing and is loving the attention; and I have zero qualms in saying I hope her child is removed from her 'care' ASAP.

As yep, delightful pic in the press of her acid throwing, parole refused previously as too dangerous, non 'husband' with her tiny boy in MaccyDs. What. The. Actual. Fuck. I wish her no harm but outside of that she deserves everything that is coming her way (hopefully starting with SS knocking on her door in the morning Angry )

SemperIdem · 17/10/2018 02:08

NotMy - agree with you entirely.

op yanbu

MissionItsPossible · 17/10/2018 02:30

YANBU. Haven’t read through the thread yet but hope people aren’t being sympathetic to her.
Before my current BF I went out with someone who eventually went to jail for criminal activities. Wasn’t told by him but found out via local news articles and Facebook. Was nothing that extreme compared to this but I found out enough to know I did not want to be associated with him in that way. What is this woman thinking?

MissionItsPossible · 17/10/2018 02:33

Great post @NotMyNameButHereForever

AuntieFesterAdams · 17/10/2018 07:12

I agree with most that has been said on here (except the odd supporter of the wife person).

However I wish media would stop referring to that 'thing' that paid for acid to be thrown at Katie Piper as her 'ex'. That implies a relationship. I believe KP knew the guy for 2 weeks before deciding it was not for her.
So Lynch was basically an obsessive control freak who decided that someone could not dump him after 2 weeks. Not sure why this bothers me so much- maybe because he barely knew her but was so determined to wreck her life?.

Belindabauer · 17/10/2018 16:57

Precisely Auntie that's the point I was making.
There was no 'boyfriend'. The bastard who arranged the acid attack had been stalking Katie on line unbeknownst to her. He then contacted her and they arranged to meet. After approximately 2 weeks he raped her, stabbed her and beat her up. He then conned her into meeting him at an internet cafe. As she was walking towards the cafe, the man about to be released threw sylphuric acid at her.
Both men are dangerous. The one who arranged it probably more so as he did this to a virtual stranger, he was not Katie's boyfriend.

kalinkafoxtrot45 · 17/10/2018 17:03

At best she’s an idiot. Yes, I will judge women who get together with men like that. What the hell is she thinking?

Belindabauer · 18/10/2018 07:35

I do think there is still a culture encouraging women to help men. To save them and see the good in them. I remember seeing on a gravestone the inscription " she lived for those she loved" and thinking wow, was that it?
Was that all she was worth, the value this woman put on others. I could never imagine a man having that inscribed as a tribute.

MrsBertBibby · 18/10/2018 08:03

everyone has more than one face.

That's an unfortunate thing to say in this context.

borderline11 · 18/10/2018 09:36

Notmyname excellent post.

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