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To look at that woman who is going out with Katie Piper’s attacker and think WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU???

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Gingerrogered · 16/10/2018 15:50

Story today in a few of the papers that the man who acid attacked Katie Piper has been released straight into the arms of his new woman who has been merrily instagramming his first weekend of release holed up in a ‘luxury hotel’ complete with the obligatory doggy eared snapchat with ‘LOVE’ written across the bottom of it.

Leaving aside that she is a mother and associating with a violent ex con is going to go down like cold sick with SS, why do some women do this? I just can’t imagine looking at those awful injuries Katie Piper has and thinking ‘yep’, he’s the man for me, the feller that did that!

Do they think they’ve fixed them or they’ve changed or do they believe it was the victims fault? It’s crap that we have Clare’s Law now but some women are going to fall victim to repeat offenders because they know, they just plain don’t care.

Where are we going wrong? Why is the message about how dangerous this is and how awful domestic violence is not getting through to some women? Do we need to have more intervention in schools? Survivors going out to explain what their experiences were really like? Or is it a self esteem issue? Or are some people just plain stupid?

It’s depressed me a lot this afternoon. Stupid, stupid woman.

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TwistedStitch · 16/10/2018 16:17

He was a kid when he was paid

Is 19 a child now?

Awwlookatmybabyspider · 16/10/2018 16:17

Oh boo hop the troubled back ground sympathy song.
We've all got our past and our demons. However most of us thank goodness don't think that's an excuse to maim people in the worse possible agonizing way. Yes I am judging.
Oh and no he wasn't a kid and even so. My nephew knows right from wrong. He's 5 years old.
Age or back ground is no excuse.

SisterOfDonFrancisco · 16/10/2018 16:18

Some women are attracted to sadistic torturers and killers.

LizzieBennettDarcy · 16/10/2018 16:18

She's got her photo in the papers.

That's why.

She's either really thick or really desperate. Let's be honest.

IncomingCannonFire · 16/10/2018 16:21

She's clearly loving the attention. He also seems far from remorseful.
I don't think convicted offenders still serving in jail should be allowed the right to marry or date until they have been released. Or any rights at all really.

Elephantinacravat · 16/10/2018 16:24

the judging wankery here is a bit much.

Yes. Mustnt be judgy.

Hmm
NotMyNameButHereForever · 16/10/2018 16:26

Cherries A 'kid' you say? Since when was a 20 year old man a 'kid'?

And troubled background - fuck that shit. So many people have troubled, nay traumatic and horrific, 'backgrounds' but they don't become acid attackers and nor does it for one iota excuse it or be some 'mitigating' factor.

Also, 'he was a kid when he was paid' makes it sound like he was doing a job of some kind. He wasn't employed in some dodgy cash under the counter type 'job' and being paid for that - he got a lump of cash to knowingly, very knowingly and with huge planning - attack someone in the worst possible way.

Your whole post is seriously weird.

midsomermurderess · 16/10/2018 16:26

It's her one chance at celebrity.

Belina · 16/10/2018 16:26

its disgusting she is a wrongen

TwistedStitch · 16/10/2018 16:27

She deserves judging. She is an appalling parent allowing this violent thug around her child and the gloating and posing on social media is disgusting. I hope SS are involved.

Gingerrogered · 16/10/2018 16:32

it’s possible he has found himself in jail and become a better man

If that’s the case how come in he was kept in 3 years over his tariff because he was too dangerous to release? That doesn’t exactly seem like he’s knuckled down to an Open University Course, kept his nose clean and been a model prisoner does it?

It’s not so much judgment as weariness. I have a friend who got together with someone she knew was violent. Everyone was warning her off and trying to talk her out of it but she thought him being a bit dangerous was sexy and exciting. Obviously it ended really inevitably and badly. She’s rewritten history now and pretends she didn’t have a clue and everybody has to pretend that’s what happened.

I just don’t understand why it doesn’t get through to some women. I wonder if it’s because the image of the dangerous bad boy is so prevalent?

A lot of the stuff around DV seems to concentrate on strong survivors who’ve got through it, there’s very little emphasis on how awful it is and why you don’t want to get into it in the first place.

I just worry that it’s a bit, I don’t know if glamorised is too strong a word, but going along that road.

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GrabEmByThePatriarchy · 16/10/2018 16:34

Some people are sexually attracted to violent sadists. It's not particularly unusual. I'm judging the shit out of her though, just because someone makes you all tingly doesn't mean you have to fucking marry them.

Meanwhile, Katie continues to go from strength to strength. I'm tickled to think of her ex sitting rotting in prison while she appears on the BBC. Imagine hating someone so much you try and ruin their life, but instead they end up being massively successful! Self-ownage there from him.

AngelsSins · 16/10/2018 16:36

Fucking hell, really Cherries101 women aren’t allowed to judge a scum bag man who threw ACID into the face of another woman, leaving her with life long injuries?! If you can’t judge someone by their actions what can you judge them on? Should we be letting people do whatever they want and never judging them?

IwantedtobeEmmaPeel · 16/10/2018 16:39

I read this yesterday and thought the same thing. I can only assume his so called wife is a shallow individual desperate for attention and her five minutes of fame. She clearly isn't blessed in the brains department. I shudder to think of her child living under the same roof as this man and I really hope SS are involved.

darkriver198868 · 16/10/2018 16:42

Because she is FUCKING stupid. This type of woman doesnt believe that it will happen to them.

DancingForTheDog · 16/10/2018 16:46

He was a kid when he was paid, came from a very troubled background, it’s possible he has found himself in jail and become a better man. Either way what happened was not his wife’s fault and the judging wankery here is a bit much. He was 20, not a 'kid' by a long chalk, and plenty of us come from 'troubled backgrounds' but manage to go through life avoiding throwing acid in the face of strangers for money. He's been denied parole for 3 years so not exactly a model prisoner was he? The only part of your comment that makes sense is what happened was not his "wife's" fault. Some sad, pathetic women love to associate with 'dangerous' men. It was the same with the Boston Marathon terrorist (forget his name) - so many women desperate to justify his actions because he's attractive.

Samcro · 16/10/2018 16:47

so he served 9 years. that alone is disgusting.
sounds like he and he and his wife deserve each other. vile creatures

TemptressofWaikiki · 16/10/2018 16:48

Actually, I think someone who takes money to carry out such a sadistic and evil crime is even worse than the ex. That is beyond chilling and totally mercenary. While I completely reject any such mitigating circumstances, he wasn’t even driven by jealousy or other emotions other than greed!

Patienceisvirtuous · 16/10/2018 16:50

What a complete fucking idiot (her). I hope SS protects her child because she isn’t doing a great job!

Twentyseventrombones · 16/10/2018 16:58

Because all violent abusive men are single aren't they?

No abuser ever manages to reel in a victim slowly and over time.

No woman ever wakes up to discover that a prince charming who has lied about pretty much everything is in fact an evil wolf in benign sheep's clothing.

No one here knows what has gone on, what this man has said to his new partner or what her own history or vulnerabilities might be.

HildaZelda · 16/10/2018 17:00

A girl I went to school with (we'll call her x)went out with a guy for a year or so when we were all around 16.

In his 20s he held a woman at knife-point, abused her in a terrible manner and raped her. He was caught and did a long stretch in prison.
It was well known, reported in all the papers, on the news and all over social media. EVERYONE knew what had happened.

He was released from prison a couple of years ago and recently x married 'my childhood sweetheart and one true love'

What the hell actually goes through someone's mind when they hook up with someone like that?

OutPinked · 16/10/2018 17:00

I know a woman who has been with a known paedophile for almost twenty years so sometimes anything goes.

I don’t understand it either. I think there’s serious MH at play or perhaps learning difficulties, it’s the only explanation I can think of.

FekkoTheLawyer · 16/10/2018 17:05

There are some women who are prison groupies. Didn't an actress briefly marry Charles Bronson? Maybe it was love - maybe a career move.

Either way - I believe he organised the attack because she broke up with him. God help her if she burns the dinner then.

I couldn't be in the same room as a man who thought about doing this to anyone. It wasn't a spur of the moment madness - it was thought through and organised.

StoneofDestiny · 16/10/2018 17:08

She will be taking money from a tabloid soon about her life with a vicious acid attacker!

PoliticalBiscuit · 16/10/2018 17:11

I honestly think some women enjoy being the change for men, that they can see their true vulnerable hearts and can worship the "true" side that no one else sees.

Because the answer isn't only that he's a violent thug- life is shades of grey.

And I'm so sorry that's a gross inadvertent 50 shades reference because that's not at all what I mean.

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