To look at that woman who is going out with Katie Piper’s attacker and think WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU???

[Gingerrogered]

Story today in a few of the papers that the man who acid attacked Katie Piper has been released straight into the arms of his new woman who has been merrily instagramming his first weekend of release holed up in a ‘luxury hotel’ complete with the obligatory doggy eared snapchat with ‘LOVE’ written across the bottom of it.

Leaving aside that she is a mother and associating with a violent ex con is going to go down like cold sick with SS, why do some women do this? I just can’t imagine looking at those awful injuries Katie Piper has and thinking ‘yep’, he’s the man for me, the feller that did that!

Do they think they’ve fixed them or they’ve changed or do they believe it was the victims fault? It’s crap that we have Clare’s Law now but some women are going to fall victim to repeat offenders because they know, they just plain don’t care.

Where are we going wrong? Why is the message about how dangerous this is and how awful domestic violence is not getting through to some women? Do we need to have more intervention in schools? Survivors going out to explain what their experiences were really like? Or is it a self esteem issue? Or are some people just plain stupid?

It’s depressed me a lot this afternoon. Stupid, stupid woman.

Even if you take that to the very extreme and say even in cases like this, where it’s so public and so well known

It's not like it's impossible to see how someone could get into that situation.

I don't know the name of this man or what he looks like. I'm sure plenty of people don't.

How many people meet online dating these days? Without any context? Where you are only meeting one on one? You only know what they tell you?

It's pretty easy to see how a woman could be dating someone for quite a while without having any idea that he is a notorious criminal.

I think there is a bit too much blaming of women in this situation.

Sure there will be some jailbird chasers and death row penfriends with psychological problems, but it doesn't follow that all women who end up in a relationship with a criminal are to blame or aren't themselves victims of emotional control or abuse.

This is general comment not directed at this particular situation.

Because she's thick.
Because she's desperate.

It's a thing.. look at all the murderers on death row with women throwing themselves at them. They want to save them. They want the fame. They have low self worth. They think the men are actually innocent and wrongly convicted. They are batshit.

The news stories say that she is fully aware of what he did and it doesn’t bother her. Such low standards.

He was a kid when he was paid
Was he? 20 when he went to jail suggests he was an adult when it happened. 27 when he was refused bail. 28 when he was refused bail. 29 when we was refused bail. 30 when there was still strong recommendations to not release him
came from a very troubled background
As do lots of people who aren't attempted murderers. It's not a reason.
it’s possible he has found himself in jail and become a better man
How would she know though? She's been "with" him for how long whilst he's been inside, unsuitable for release?
Either way what happened was not his wife’s fault of course it isn't, it's those two sick bastards. But that doesn't mean that this thing of idolising violent criminals doesn't make it somewhat cooler to would be criminals and it doesn't make it OK to bring such a man into her child's life and it doesn't make it OK to advertise their relationship as widely as possible knowing his victim is fucking traumatised.

and the judging wankery here is a bit much it really really isn't

It's a weird phenomenon. Much like the women who marry serial killers and people like Charles Bronson.

Perhaps she doesn't give a fuck. Women are not exempt from being terrible people.

Oh come on - if this 'wife' fell for him before she knew how infamous his crime was, it means she fell for someone she knew was in prison for a very serious offence. She could have found out everything she needed to know from one google search. Who gets 'married' to a thug like that - a mercenary man who will take mo eye to disfigure an innocent woman. It's a premeditated offence where he had to get acid, stalk the woman and deliberately chuck it at her face.his most recent comment when met by the press in his hotel was to comment how good looking he was (ironic when he deliberately tried to take away the good looks of Katie Piper).
His evil act unearthed her beauty within as well as in the outside - but he has blinded her in one eye and put her through, and continues to put her through) years of painful treatments just to allow her to live a normal life.
This 'wife' didn't commit the crime, but she can be under no illusion what type of thug she has 'married' and brought into her child's life. It is chilling.

I didn't realise that the ex boyfriend had raped Katie and been violent towards her before the acid attack.

When I saw her on SCD she made me quite emotional at just how beautiful a person ( in every sense ) she is after what she's been through. So gentle and kind yet very strong. Amazing woman.

Well, I'd like to think it's all a clever ploy on the woman's part, infact she's just winning his confidence, once won, she'll get him pissed and take his face off with a blow torch.

YANBU - This is really upsetting that he has been released. This woman needs to take a serious look at herself.

Surely she won't be allowed to keep her child? Putting herself at risk is stupid but putting her child at risk is child neglect.

I wonder if stupid is not the right word to use. Isn't someone as the OP described someone who is sick?

Yes, I would be very surprised if she were allowed to keep her child.

Some women have really really really low standards, and will value a man over everything else - over their children, over their friends / family / absolutely anyone who tells her he’s bad news and to walk away.

the judging wankery here is a bit much

I'm also perfectly OK with it. Stupid woman for giving him the time of day.

Beauty and the Beast syndrome...very bad man must be damaged somehow and so needs rescuing and changing by loving woman ..very common theme plus threat or reputation of violence also adds excitement to the mix . Look at the woman who tried to meet up with Raoul Moat as he was holding off the police .

I'd assume there was something very wrong with her. I feel sorry for her but to a much greater extent for her child.

Correct me if I'm wrong but was this guy not also convicted of a sexual offence?

What a catch

It seems it was the ex that had previous convictions.
Charming pair

Meh.

He’s scum.

She’s scum.

Just a shame her child is involved.

I’d judge anyone who didn’t judge them tbh.

There are prison groupies. And there are also morally corrupt assholes that will never make something for themselves and seek the validation that is never going to come their way by courting publicity any way they can. Look at the thing, and you can see plainly what she is.

I was shocked when I read this as he wasnt even a bf or ex she had known the guy 2 weeks!

just looked at the news article, there are pictures of him with this new womans kid. sadly i doubt ss are involved...

There are many women being able to help and change a man is far more important to them that their own personal journey and many will put themselves in risky situations for their man

Plus the 15 minutes of fame is an added bonus

Maybe he has moved on and changed but any sensible grounded women who values themselves would not get involved or in the very least want to see proof of that

I’ve skimmed the thread and I think what people are missing is that everyone has more than one face. Even the nicest of people can act differently around various people in their lives. In my work I have dealt with people who have done horrible things but they still have a nice side. Very, very few people are truly evil. Those that are, are clever enough to hide it. This woman has likely seen the “nice” side of this person (whether he has a nice side or is just acting can be up for debate!). She believes what she believes. I don’t actually judge her for that. Manipulative men can be extremely convincing. I actually hope for her sake that he has really changed and that she won’t regret her actions.

As I said to a colleague today, I’ve known children who’ve seen their parents hacked to death with an axe (ok, one child, asylum seeker from Eritrea many years ago) and he was the most amazing, polite young man. Yes, very horrible backgrounds affect people, but not everyone turns out a violent tosser because they had a bad background. No excuse. And the woman is a fucking idiot.