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To admire Eugenie a bit more after the wedding?

159 replies

malificent7 · 13/10/2018 08:17

I had no clue about her and she has been portrayed as works by etc.
However....she purposely went for a backless dress to show off her scar and had a plastic free wedding. Aibu to admire that?

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specialsubject · 13/10/2018 12:38

plastic free, eh? Those goody bags with a CAN of water, a disposable poncho (biodegradable - how long?).... just waste by another name.

being a happy bride does not excuse greenwash.

LittleBookofCalm · 13/10/2018 12:39

Harry is the spare, as is Andrew

C8H10N4O2 · 13/10/2018 12:50

No lobbying required by their father

Andrew has lobbied for a bigger (paid) role for his daughters.

The point is also that he insisted on the big title usage whilst his brother and sister both went down a lower profile path, more suitable for minor royals. So Edward elected not to use "Prince/Princess", Anne declined the potential Earldom (accepted by Snowdon) .

Peter and Zara both had private weddings in the sense that the only security required was that specific to protecting Royals attending and event. They didn't add to it by taking carriage rides around a city or running a lottery for public attendee. As PP have pointed out - without all that the security required to take the Royals from Windsor castle to the chapel would be much lower key.

Much like everyone else here I've not met the girls, they may be nice or nasty. However they are trust fund kids born into immense wealth, the best education money can buy and a network of contacts which you can't buy. If they can't make something out of all that advantage it would reflect very poorly on them. If they couldn't manage just a small bit of charity work out of noblesse oblige it would reflect appallingly on them (and I can't imagine the Queen not teaching them that, even if Airmiles Andy is more interested in lining his own pockets).

Livingtothefull · 13/10/2018 13:09

TBH Eugenie seems to be a nice girl. Apparently she has offered unsung support to young people undergoing the same surgery she did. If that and showing off her surgery scars benefits others and helps them not to be ashamed of her scars then it's to her credit.

However the security costs which the public are expected to cough up for the unnecessary carriage ride doesn't reflect well on her - though it may be one to lay at the door of her entitled and greedy parents rather than her. How much surgery and support, how much policing to make us all safer, would that £2m have paid for?

It's not her I have anything against but the institution of monarchy which engenders that entitled attitude from them and is a drain on the rest of us, taking far more from us than it gives back.

chipshape · 13/10/2018 13:37

Never knew her name was pronounced like that. I assumed it was 'you-gee-nee'. She looked stunning. I'm off to Wikipedia what her job is.

dawnmist · 13/10/2018 13:57

The royal family have to be seen to do something to warrant the huge expense of them. That they support charities is to be expected, so they should. It's not like they have much to do, merely give their name to it and turn up for the odd freebie, so easy and effortless for them to make us think how great they are. They really aren't.

specialsubject · 13/10/2018 14:12

Can't find any references, but I remember when she was born and her mother said it was 'me tarzan, you Jane ee'. did I imagine it as it seems to have changed?

dawnmist · 13/10/2018 14:18

To be fair the security was because she wanted (strange this) her grandparents/aunts and uncles/cousins there. You know like normal people.

Normal people don't expect the country to pay for that privilege. How wonderful to be frivolous with other people's money.

EachandEveryone · 13/10/2018 20:05

She seemed really lovely. I would like to know though are they real party animals in private? Was it just me thinking what did a lot of the guests have in common? Tracey Emin, Kate Moss, Pixie Geldof, Naomi Campbell, Robbie Williams and I’m sure there’s more. Do you think there were long queues for the bathroom?

ForalltheSaints · 13/10/2018 21:19

I thought positively of her not covering up her scar and hope that someone else with a scar will feel similarly as a result.

Alpacanorange · 13/10/2018 21:22

Really have no shits to give, so a privileged young woman has got married. And she is being more highly thought about because she works. Like everyone else who is not born into privilege.

Thymeout · 14/10/2018 10:35

The only thing the guests had in common was celebrity status. 850 'friends'? They sound to me about as real as Facebook Friends. More 'likes' than H&M but lower status. No Oprah, no Serena, no Clooneys, no Beckhams. Jimmy Carr instead of Corden.

If she wants to be thought more royal, I think E is making a mistake going down the OK magazine route.

EandEmummy · 14/10/2018 17:25

I have severe scarring from scoliosis corrective surgery and have mine for all to see when on holiday in my bikini, whilst wearing certain dresses at parties etc and when I get married if it was on show then so what. To say that she has done this is brave I think is total rubbish and comes across as a bit of oh look at me haven't I been hard done to. Now in terms of the attempting to have a plastic free wedding,for that I am impressed and thing good on her for trying.

Annette69 · 14/10/2018 17:29

I like her. The parents on the other hand.....

PoxAlert · 14/10/2018 17:35

Yes. I saw the interview her and her DH did with Eamonn and Ruth and they were just lovely. Seemed genuinely good, nice people.

I'm a big fan now and thought she looked wonderful.

TheCherries · 14/10/2018 17:40

It is lovely that she had her friends and family around her for her wedding day.

I do however think she didn’t need to up it to include lots of showbizz personalities for the hell of it. Nor did she need to go outside of the confines of Windsor Castle.

As soon as she stepped foot, or carriage wheel outside of the castle ground the security bill went up and so too did the strain on the police service.

How do I know? Because at the same time the men in blue were spending all the time scouting for devices and then lining the streets we had cause for the police to be involved for our family. Sadly there have been delays since the incident due to the officers needing to be in Windsor to stand with the non existent crowds and now it is too late for them to put in any man power for any leads or other possibilities. If they hadn’t needed to be elsewhere they could have stayed at the scene for longer, had more officers to look further afield and been able to make enquiries regarding the crime.

Sadly this isn’t to be as the police officers were needed in Windsor and we won’t get answers or anyone brought to book over it.

So I am pleased she had a lovely wedding, but there are consequences and personally I think it should have been scaled down to remain inside the castle grounds so there was less demand on police resources,
Not just the cost but physically taking our police officers away from their every day duty

QueenoftheNights · 14/10/2018 17:46

she has a job but I doubt she is under the same contract as commoners- how else could she take so many hols?
I feel it's a 'token' job and pretty much p/t in reality.

I hope it was her pushy parents who insisted on such a big wedding because it was OTT. Compare it with Sarah Chatto ( daughter of Princess Margaret) who had 200 guests in a small church and no fuss.

I don't think showy weddings like this do the royals any favours.

TinklyLittleLaugh · 14/10/2018 17:47

Making a big deal of showing her (very neat and unremarkable) scar was absolute PR genius. Top marks to whoever thought up that one.

A massively indulgent wedding though: no one needs a whole weekend of celebration. It's just greedy consumerism gone mad.

yawning801 · 14/10/2018 17:49

I've had surgery for scoliosis, it's a very big thing to go through and I love my scar too - I'm going to get a few backless tops next summer.

Poppyinagreenfield · 14/10/2018 17:52

How do you pronounce her name. I obviously missed the wedding. I am a simple peasant.

elfies · 14/10/2018 17:53

I think she would have been happy getting married barefoot on a beach somewhere , but it was obvious her dad wanted her to be treated as a royal princess , and her mum wanted to be back among the Royals. She comes across as a loyal daughter following the wishes of her parents, and grandparents .
She is a beautiful young girl , and I wish her and her husband all the happiness in the world .
To be controversial ,,All it would take is William , and his three children to be in an accident (god forbid) and she would be once again in a high position in line to the throne ,and if Charles has his way , she would be totally unused to representing the royals. I think Charles instead of presenting them as 'hangers on', should perhaps be treating them as the only royal princesses of that generation .

Mrseft · 14/10/2018 18:01

I don't know. I find the homing in on the whole scar thing a bit.. difficult.
I have a large scar of my own right down my chest, and it doesn't factor into the choices of clothes I make, nor did it factor into my wedding dress choice. I know not everyone will feel that way, but has Eugenie herself actually said that's why she chose a low backed dress? Or is that a Media assumption and guesswork? Maybe she just liked it? It's just a scar, it's a part of her. I'm not sure I agree with the whole bravery portion of it. BUT I thought she looked stunning, and very happy. It was really rather lovely and I hope they have a lovely life together

Cantusethatname · 14/10/2018 18:02

Ostentatious waste of money and she and her family are an expensive waste of space.

Pliudev · 14/10/2018 18:04

I saw a very cruel cartoon in The Guardian yesterday and it made me more sympathetic towards her. I think there is no reason to be so mean whether you support the monarchy or not. She didn't ask to be born into that family and it sounds as if she's had a fair amount to contend with. I don't think I'd like to exchange places with her.

AmICrazyorWhat2 · 14/10/2018 18:04

TBh I liked more than anything that her and her husband just looked like a real team, the closeness was clear to see.

I didn't watch the wedding, but I like the fact that all the younger royals are allowed to marry people they truly care for - no repeats of the Charles/Diana debacle. Edward/Sophie were the same.