To admire Eugenie a bit more after the wedding?

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I had no clue about her and she has been portrayed as works by etc.
However....she purposely went for a backless dress to show off her scar and had a plastic free wedding. Aibu to admire that?

Meh. They just seem like normal people to me. Certainly nothing there to admire but I struggle to understand why some people dislike them either.

I've always thought she is lovely. She is smart, has a good degree and an interesting sounding job. People often comment on how nice she is and she does fairly low key charity work which has personal resonance to her. She also apparently is pretty relaxed about using her title. I actually think people judge & slate Bea more, Eugenie just gets dragged in. No one really took an interest until the wedding because she kept her head down!!

The security bill was to be expected with royals attending and St. George's is her family church. Essentially Sloane has society wedding - shocker! Even if she'd had a 20min at Windsor Guildhall registry job, family would have attended & she would have had some security. Her wedding looked like lots of other Sloaney weddings, that's her normal. Did people think she ought to have worn a sack and booked a crack house to offset the fact she was born into the royal family or something?

She was the only royal granddaughter to want a carriage drive through the town. They had to close streets so she could do this. She also opened up private areas of the castle and invited 1,200 members of the public to write in for tickets.

This obviously massively hiked the security bill. Other members of the family have got married in the chapel with minimum fuss and expense. She turned it into a public event, when she doesn't really have 'a public'. Most of them/us don't even know how to pronounce her name. I heard 3 different versions on the BBC and LBC yesterday.

Others have got married in the chapel in a much more low-key fashion, with fewer guests. The Queen has her own security wherever she goes. The extra cost was because they involved the public.

I think it goes back to Andrew's resentment of Charles getting special treatment as heir to the throne. Unlike Anne, he's always pushed for his daughters to be treated like William and Harry. He wanted them to be on the Civil List, have an allowance etc, with police protection officers.

Andrew and Fergie have always exploited the royal connection for personal benefit. (Andrew's shady dealings re money laundering over the sale of Southfork, and Fergie trying to sell access to Andrew for £500,000.)

I don't think either of their daughters really have 'a full-time job'. Anne and her family seem to have managed their royal status much better. It all looked as if she was trying to out-do Harry and Megan, when they'd made a point of scaling down from William and Kate. So, no, the whole premise of the occasion felt wrong.

I absolutely agree, it was such a lovely day, she looked beautiful and showing her scar was incredible.

The two princesses seem OK to me. However, their parents are another story! I'm afraid that I do not like either Prince Andrew or Sarah Ferguson. I find Andrew comes across as very self-important and Sarah as a bit brash and vulgar.

When the girls were born, I gather their father insisted that they be titled princesses. That smacked of a "look at me, I'm important" attitude, which I can't abide. The truth is that he isn't at all important and neither are his daughters, nice as they are. It's a pity that Andrew could not be more like his sister!

Hard working?

Think of all those young people with scars and marks that could be considered disfiguring, with such a strong role model showing them that actually this is not something shameful to be hidden at all costs but as significant a part of your life as any other. Kudos to her.

Three days ago no one liked her. Today she's a hero.
Massive generalisation.

I live in a town where there was a wedding that the queen, Charles, anne and other royals attended. The police presence was high, searches the week before, roads closed, police on the Queen’s route.

Security with that number of royal family attending was always going to be high.

I know of one teen who has just had this surgery and she cried when she saw what Eugenie did yesterday. Teens are full of angst and body image worries anyway so the anxiety about her scar has taken over her life. She felt liberated by what Eugenie did and it gave her so much hope as today her scar is red and angry but it will be barely noticeable and is nothing to hide.

I do see the point that she didn't need the public & the carriage ride, I was a bit myself. I think Andrew may be pushed some of that. Otherwise, loved it.

I am sure she does the same as everyone else in their jobs and does it to the best of her ability. No need to bash!

"She was the only royal granddaughter to want a carriage drive through the town. "

She's only the 2nd GD to marry!

It’s not her fault that her dad is Andrew. Really disliked within the Royal Navy and has done some very dodgy things...

Eugenie looked pretty yesterday and she looks happy with her new husband. I’m sure she’s as nice as anybody else, most people are after all, just people. But none of us have any real idea what any of the royals are like. Not that it matters. Meh.

The York girls aren’t work-shy, they’re just in an odd position. They’re royal enough that they have a certain amount of responsibilities and expectations and they can’t quite live normal lives, but not royal enough that they make the cut for Charles streamlined monarchy. Anne’s children are better off for being lower down the line of succession. Beatrice and Eugenie are just high enough for it to be a bit relevant.

They’re in this weird spot where their royal work doesn’t really count and a lot of their charity work isn’t reported on, but they’re still judged as ‘working royals’ when they have a vacation or get photographed at a party. They would have been much better off if The Queen hadn’t indulged Andrew’s ideas about them being proper working royals.

@Littlecaf but it is her local parish church. She lives in the grounds of Windsor castle, so having it there seems logical? She attends that church regularly

what does she do for a living?
she did indeed look very pretty and i feel the media has been pretty mean towards both of them, and their mother

The Queen didn't leave the castle grounds. She was just driven from one door to another. The security in the town was to protect Eugenie, and the public who'd come to see her.

I've twice seen the Queen being driven about London to and from engagements. All the police do is close the junctions while she and outriders drive through. Holds up the traffic for no time at all. Blink and you'd miss it. There's no precedent for a minor royal being given the sort of display Eugenie had. Or a two day wedding, as far as I know, but at least we're not paying for that.

I'm not a republican. I enjoy a royal state occasion. But I don't think Andrew and Sarah Ferguson have done anything to bring credit to the monarchy, and quite a bit to damage it.

She works for the gallery Hauser + Wirth.

The Queen was given the title of princess at birth, she was never expected to be queen she got that title due to being the Kings granddaughter.

Why wouldn't the Queens grandchildren be given the same title at birth that she received?

Not a fan but I don't get the angst of them being given titles...

The Queen was given the title of princess at birth, she was never expected to be queen she got that title due to being the Kings granddaughter

Yes like Princesses Beatrice and Euginie she was the DUKE OF YORK's daughter as was maragret.

So what Bertie pushed for his daughters to be "proper" princesses did he?

Why should within two generations, should the duke of yorks daughters be treated so differently if it was princess Elizabeth and Maragret then of course it should be princess Beatrice and Euginie.

Charles could have been in an accident of some type i mean image paparatizi being so determined to get a shot of him and camilia that they drove like absolute dick heads and chased the car they were in cutting up every other road user, oh that would never happen ............. oh yeah (i mean admitedly he and camila wouldnt have got in to a car that was driven by a drunk and high french bloke but even if he'd been sober and clear headed its massively likely he'd have struggled with the dick head paps)

in which case Andrew would have been the next in line to the throne, he could have abdicated after his divorce, given tje queen blames her fathers subquent poor health and ij her eyes prmature death on her uncles abdication that was never going to happen but. It could have, in which case the line of sucession would have gone down Andrews line.

They are only "minor" royals cos charles and Diana had two children and charles is still alive.

As the Queen's male line descended grandchildren, Beatrice and Eugenie were entitled to be styled as "princess" - that didn't require any pushing from Andrew. Princess Anne's children, as female line grandchildren, were not. Prince Edward and Sophie decided that they didn't want any children they had to be styled as prince/princess, though they would have been entitled to do so.

Any children Harry and Meghan have will be Lord/Lady. Prince Louis and Princess Charlotte are only Prince/ss because of the Letters Patent issued in 2013 - previously, only the firstborn son of the eldest son of the Prince of Wales is allowed to be a prince, and had Prince George been a girl he would have been "Lady" and a younger brother would have been "Prince" and would have been higher up the line of succession than his older sister (like how Anne was bumped down when Andrew and Edward were born).

I am no fan of the Royals at all, but am shallow enough to have turned on the TV to see her dress....
Thought she looked lovely actually and very happy.
I don't think any more of her at all. She just happened to be born into that family.

The carriage procession was unnecessary. Security is a given anywhere attended by the senior royals, but there was no need for the pony & trap ride which hugely extended the security resources required. Not just in terms of costs but also for the staff diverted from other responsibilities.

If I were Eugenie I’d also be hugely embarrassed by the reports in this mornings Times that Prince Andrew allegedly boasted about them having 200 or so more guests than H & M. er so what?

They would have security no matter where they were though

Definitely not BU. Showing off a scar in such a visible way was such a positive thing to do. There is so much pressure for beauty to come from perfection rather than strength and survival. She looked amazing and has managed to be such a positive role model at the same time which is something that has never really been the case before, although it sounds like she’s done quite a bit of work in private for the charity.