To admire Eugenie a bit more after the wedding?

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I had no clue about her and she has been portrayed as works by etc.
However....she purposely went for a backless dress to show off her scar and had a plastic free wedding. Aibu to admire that?

When the girls were born, I gather their father insisted that they be titled princesses. That smacked of a "look at me, I'm important" attitude, which I can't abide.

He didn't say, or have to say a word about them being titled.

They were titled as male line granddaughters of the monarch in exactly the same way the Queen, Princess Margaret and Princess Alexandra were titled when they were born and their grandfather was King.

Edward and Sophie's children are also an anomaly. Legally they would be HRH Princess Louise and HRH Prince James, but they are known as Lady and Viscount (much in the same way Camilla is HRH The Princess of Wales, but known by the Cornwall title insted).

Also, only the Queen, Philip and the Queen Mother received money from the civil list so Andrew, for all his faults, never demanded his girls be added to it as none of them were on it.

I thought she looked beautiful and I loved how she embraced her scars on her big day

I thought this was going to be about Eugene from tangled, clearly spending too much time with kids.

I don't think any more or less, I don't really think much of any of it and I still don't fully understand why the wedding of someone who's not going to be king/queen is made into such a big public thing, is she generally in the public eye much?

Don't have any opinion other than being delighted she deliberately showed off a large surgery scar.
It is good to see someone 'celebrating' what their body has been through in such a public way.

Littlecaf why should she? It was her wedding!

@Everyoneiswingingit

Lovely post by someone who clearly understands the stigma that scars can bring!

It isn't only teens who get angsty about visible scars. I had extensive orthopaedic surgery to my legs in my 50s and the cruel comments from a neighbour about how I should 'always wear trousers now to hide the scars in case they upset people' had stayed with me. Yesterday a very pretty young bride had the courage to challenge that attitude and yesterday I ent out without wearing leggings under my dress for the first time in years.

And guess what? No-one fainted at the sight of my legs with their long, pale blue scars. (Although the whiteness would have dazzled had it been a sunny day!) I never had a problem with Eugenie, after all she didn't choose to be Andy's daughter, but gained a lot of admiration for her yesterday.

scarbados
I've had a lot of orthopaedic surgery on my lower legs in my late 40's.
I don't wear dresses after a nurse said: 'poor you, such ugly scars'
(they are quite bad)
Maybe i will now. Thanks.x

scarbados

And at your neighbour for ever saying such a thing.

And for ARoomSomewhere too.

Oh scarbados that's lovely

Making a positive 'statement' about her scar and being seen by many people around the world is a great thing to do. If it helps just a handful of people to accept their own scars then the money spent on security around the wedding is nothing compared to all the money that you would have to spend to do the equivalent with a campaign.

to scarbados and ARoom. Someone once asked me to cover up my scar on my leg because it was upsetting her. Can you believe it?

I don't dislike her, it's not really her fault what she was born into.
I've no idea what she does for a living though.
She looked very pretty yesterday.
And of course security was going to be high it was a royal wedding, the royals are her family, the queen is her grandmother.
If her friends are celebrities I suppose they would be invited.
If I had a shed load of celeb friends they'd be at my wedding too.

She probably didn't need the carriage ride through the town but who knows why she chose that.

They are only "minor" royals cos charles and Diana had two children and charles is still alive.

They were born minor royals. When Beatrice was born the next generation's heir and spare were already up and running so unless three generations were wiped out they were never getting anywhere near the throne.

Its not exactly a state secret that Airmiles Andy lobbied for titles for them and a bigger royal role at a time when the funded Royal Family was consciously being scaled down.

Anne and Edward both chose not to have big titles for their children even though the Queen would have given Mark Philips a title and would hardly deny Edward's children. Its only Andrew who seems to be so precious about it and yes, I'd imagine he is the reason we had to fund security for a public circus rather than the more private weddings of Anne's children or the smaller scale of Edward/Sophie's wedding.

Plastic free wedding? Not with all those plastic fantastic guests.

Plastic free wedding?

Totally offsets the carbon footprint created by thousands of people traveling long distances, a two day mega wedding and the large scale security exercise needed...

To be fair the security was because she wanted (strange this) her grandparents/aunts and uncles/cousins there. You know like normal people.

I agree but the carriage ride was completely unnecessary tbf. So it wasn't just the security of the family.

I thought it was a really admirable gesture and that she looked lovely.

Some posters are just so heavily invested in people they don't know at all... it baffles me. Reading this thread you'd think that a) you know this woman and her family and b) they'd give a monkeys what other people think of them.

Good on Eugenie for wearing the dress she wanted to wear; with thought for her scarring or not. She deserves respect for being a human being and doesn't need to be put on a pedestal only to be pushed off again if and when she does something to irk you.

Not a royalist but she seems a perfectly nice decent person.

I think that family have a really nice dynamic to be honest they obviously adore each other and have fun together - always thought it abit odd that they got divorced. Have heard stories that in real life Sarah Ferguson is great fun and very generous if abit bonkers.

She looked lovely and as someone who has similar scaring I admire her for making the statement with her dress.

Her father however in his exclusive interview made very pointed remarks about 'The other wedding' etc which was completely unnecessary.

Its not exactly a state secret that Airmiles Andy lobbied for titles for them and a bigger royal role at a time when the funded Royal Family was consciously being scaled down.

But he didn't. They carry the titles they automatically received when they were born. No lobbying required by their father.

Anne and Edward both chose not to have big titles for their children even though the Queen would have given Mark Philips a title and would hardly deny Edward's children. Its only Andrew who seems to be so precious about it and yes, I'd imagine he is the reason we had to fund security for a public circus rather than the more private weddings of Anne's children or the smaller scale of Edward/Sophie's wedding.

Edward's children are titled. They just use a lesser form of their titles so that it's in keeping with their parent's current title form. The Queen couldn't have denied Louise and James using Princess and Prince as they are automatically entitled to it in the same way Beatrice and Eugenie are. Anne's children wouldn't have been Prince and Princess even if they'd accepted a title for her children. They'd have been Viscount and Lady at most.

And Zara's wedding closed down the royal mile in Edinburgh so hardly private. Just in a different location, and still had a seriously hefty security cost over over half a million quid.

I’m slightly bemused at what exactly they had to give up to achieve a plastic free wedding? The plastic cutlery they were planning on or the fake flowers she preferred?!

Her scar does of course look good and she has a very pretty back so it’s great she showed it off but nobody could say it’s an ugly scar. I enjoyed watching the frocks and so on but Andy really is a tool- ‘a few more guests than Harry because they have so many friends,’ yuk. My Girls are so popular don’t you know?

Really was nice to see Fergie being Fergie
I agree, she looked like she'd be a laugh