Women should not have to fear being raped by fellow prisoners

[Biologicalreality]

In response to the Karen White case, there is a petition to ask the government to review their rules on putting males in women's prisons.

Link here: petition.parliament.uk/petitions/228767

Should = shouldn't!!!

At 1,735

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Signed.

I actually feel a bit thick, I had no idea any of this was going on. But after seeing the White case and reading a bit about it on here I’m horrified this Orwellian thought policing has been allowed to get this far!

It’s misogynistic and insane.

I would consider myself a trans ally, as in I believe trans peopl3 should be free to live how they want free from abuse or fear.

But of course they haven’t actually changed sex, and it seems tranwoman now means something completely different to what I thought it did. (I thought it meant someone with diagnosed gender dysphoria and who had extensive surgery)

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It would have been presented to the judge as a sign of deviance. Now it’s presented as a reason to let men off heinous crimes.

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Signed...it was 1803 when i left the site

I completely agree with you mummysvodka, I thought the same until I started reading up on it on mumsnet and have been shocked to learn the truth!

Also, isn't it odd that the largest amount of signatures on the petition come from Brighton? You'd think they would bring the fewest.

I'd guess it might be connected to the number of trans extremists there that people may have encountered. There was a major bust up on Brighton and Hove's Facebook page over the council's trans guidance for schools. Parents were outraged by what was being promoted to their children.

I know my own concerns about trans ideology came directly from what TRAs were saying online. The more you are exposed to the ideology the more its homophobia and misogyny becomes apparent.

^^ You are not thick. Most people started off from your position of feeling like we should just be kind, before realising what was actually going on.

ChelleDawg2020

Do not mean that men should be housed in the female estate and the potential to be raped by them should be used as a deterrent/punishment towards women committing crimes?

Reported ChelleDawg2020 Sounds very much like the rhetoric of trans-activists who advocate violence against women.

What a disgusting post from Chelledawg - perhaps do some research about Women in prison - 60% have some form of traumatic brain injury, most have been victims of sexual or domestic violence. There are 8 Women in prison for not paying their fucking TV licence.

Signed and shared.

I was in Brighton visiting friends a couple of months ago. There was a trans person in one of the charity shops trying on quite outlandish vintage dresses etc, coming out and looking in the mirror on the shop floor, wearing very high heels, clearly sexually excited. There was only one person working there as far as I could see - a young woman.

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I've done the Fair Play thing too! Wrote my own answers rather than copied and pasted as I suspect they'll ignore comments that are identical word for word to a campaigning group's leaflet.

Somehow we’ve forgotten that these types of men have existed for a long time and been threats for a long time. - cantankerouscamel yesterday at 23:04

This mass forgetfulness is one of the things that disturbs me the most about current gender discussions. I see people now engaged in serious conversations about issues that were settled in the UK decades ago. Sky Sports had a discussion the other day about whether sports should be sex segregated. I mean WTAF. These are the very BASICS of women’s rights we’re talking about here. How can it be that we are being forced to make the case for them all over again?

No worries @ferntwist (and excuse for another bump for this thread too!)

"you want to infringe on their human rights?"

Their human rights should be able to be protected in a male jail? Is the problem lack of funds? If there are so many of these prisoners now in jail, that they need their own wings etc, why is this new psychological/criminal profile not being examined more closely? "Single, white, male" is a thing, but "fetish related sexual crimes" is not (but it is..?). Why are resources in womens prisons being used to house male inmates? Because..? Can male facilities not control the prison population to a degree that guarantees the safety of these people? Is a blind eye turned in a way it is to pedophiles being beaten up, etc..? Why should womens prisons suffer because something is going on in mens prisons?