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Women should not have to fear being raped by fellow prisoners

153 replies

Biologicalreality · 12/10/2018 18:23

In response to the Karen White case, there is a petition to ask the government to review their rules on putting males in women's prisons.

Link here: petition.parliament.uk/petitions/228767

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AtrociousCircumstance · 12/10/2018 20:05

The Orwellian unthink of man=woman, and access to all female safe spaces, should be wish it.

It’s like a backlash to #metoo. A lot of woke people can’t see that.

AtrociousCircumstance · 12/10/2018 20:05

*should he wish it

SlightAggrandising · 12/10/2018 20:10

Done

DamsonGin · 12/10/2018 20:11

Signed.

I would also happily sign and support a petition for transwomen to have safe provision, just not in with female prisoners.

Biologicalreality · 12/10/2018 20:13

Me too Damson.

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Somerville · 12/10/2018 20:21

Thanks for sharing this. Signed.

WeShouldBeFriends · 12/10/2018 20:21

Signed

Racecardriver · 12/10/2018 20:22

Your right. Neither should men really. Prisons aren't up to scratch are they?

cisk · 12/10/2018 20:40

Signed too. Thank you for highlighting this.

ShotsFired · 12/10/2018 20:50

This strange acceptance that male prisons are seething pits of danger for anyone who enters, and there's nothing to be done about that, is what baffles me.

The male prisoners are not a different exotic and untameable species, they are normal men, adult human males.

So why is it a women's issue to accommodate any other adult human males who don't want to go in there because they're scared?

Deal with the fucking source problem then it won't be a problem!

70isaLimitNotaTarget · 12/10/2018 20:50

Signed
Functioning penis = no place in a womens' prison.

Biologicalreality · 12/10/2018 22:08

835 signatures now!

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WokerThanWoke · 12/10/2018 22:25

Bump.

LaPufalina · 13/10/2018 03:20

Signed

cordeliavorkosigan · 13/10/2018 03:23

No one should fear rape, and rape should be extremely unlikely and carry tough consequences, in any prison. Agreed, it's not women's problem to solve at all. If men's prisons are not safe, they should be made safe, by changing the behaviour of men who are in them.

tinatsarina · 13/10/2018 03:42

Signed

trojanpony · 13/10/2018 05:43

Signed and annoyed it doesn’t have more signatures

Whatsnewwithyou · 13/10/2018 06:05

Signed and written to my MP to let him k ow. For the first time I'm thinking there may be a positive side to having a Tory MP.

Lumisade · 13/10/2018 06:13

Signed

Biologicalreality · 13/10/2018 07:54

Bump. Over 1000 now.

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ferntwist · 13/10/2018 07:58

Signed. Fewer than 5% of transwomen ever remove their penis. Of course they should be in male prisons.
Please all fill in the government consultation. Faur Play For Women have an easy pre-filled form on their website.

DisrespectfulAdultFemale · 13/10/2018 07:58

Signed.

lovetherisingsun · 13/10/2018 08:03

What about transgender women who are serving sentences for fraud, or theft? Ones with no sexual offending past? Is the likelihood that they going to rape other women so high that you want to infringe on their human rights? What about the risk to those individuals while in a mens prison?

"My concern about the current approach is that it is appears to privilege the subjective feelings of particular, largely male, prisoners, at the expense of the needs of those prisoners, largely women, who have to live with the decisions imposed upon them. Highly vulnerable, often traumatised, prisoners are the rule, not the exception, in women's prisons. Many have faced male sexual violence and exploitation.

Consider what it must be like for women who have experienced male violence to have males imprisoned alongside them.

There are other concerns too. The Chief Executive of the Howard League, Frances Crook, told last weekend's Sunday Times that she had 'personally witnessed female prisoners visibly "intimidated" by a male-bodied trans inmate in their midst. "The trans prisoner was dominating the space and the women were round the edges," she said.'

" - Richard Garside, Director of the Centre for Crime and Justice Studies.

This is why the transwomen's "human rights" should not trump the rights of the women who have no choice.

AthelstaneTheUnready · 13/10/2018 08:05

signed

BartholinsSister · 13/10/2018 08:06

Where should we put people without penises who sexually assault women?