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AIBU?

To say it's NOT pronounced like this?

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DaanSaaf · 11/10/2018 21:31

Cutlery.

Cut-le-ree
Not cuttle-ree

Sets my teeth on edge. What pronunciations annoy you?

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northlaine · 12/10/2018 18:50

My dad says sang-witch not sandwich - annoyed my whole life Grin

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Chocolatedeficitdisorder · 12/10/2018 18:54

I don't see why thinking jai is wrong means I hate my heritage though

That's more like it. You're more than welcome to think it's wrong - that's entirely up to you. What you've been doing though, is telling us all that it's wrong and we're wrong as if it's a fact and not just your opinion.

Wind your neck in.

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FallenIvy · 12/10/2018 18:54

It’s pronounced s-gone NOT sc-own! I have loads but this one does my head in the most!

AgreedGrin

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treaclesoda · 12/10/2018 18:54

The letter sound has been taught to people incorrectly

But it's correct in the areas where it is pronounced haitch.

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toxic44 · 12/10/2018 18:55

Sangwidge. That and the glottal stop as in 'ci-ee' (city), 'opperchewni-y' (opportunity), 'thir-y' (thirty) and so on. And those who drop the definite article entirely: 'Going t car?' This usually combines with the glottal stop after the 't'.

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Blackoutblinds · 12/10/2018 18:56

The letter H sound where I am is said haitch. It has been taught to me as haitch because that’s how it’s said where I live and from my cultural background.

It marks me as a Catholic in Northern Ireland. Are you REALLY trying to tell me that makes me inferior in some way and I’m “incorrect”? Because that’s kind of just a bit inflammatory to me

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YeTalkShiteHen · 12/10/2018 18:56

Wind your neck in

This!

And it’s skon for scone. Unless you’re talking Palace and then it’s Skoon.

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prettybird · 12/10/2018 18:56

You're not listening buscaution.

In your opinion it is wrong. To your ear it is wrong.

But. It's. Not. Wrong.

It's a variation of the alphabet - in the same way that Zee is a variation and Haitch is a variation. Both of those sound unfamiliar and strange, but They're. Not. Wrong. Confused

Go away and get a linguistics or history of language degree.

Then you can come back and tell us that we are wrong. But you won't because then you wouldn't be so ignorant in the true sense of the word Hmm

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OvO · 12/10/2018 18:56

Asteria, I say the L in calm!
Also in almond

I also say the T in often. Though not in soften weirdly.

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Teacher22 · 12/10/2018 18:58

Arks for ask. Grr! I worked with an English teacher who pronounced ask as arks. What chance did the poor kids have with such an example?

(Though I am giving Idrid Elba a free pass on saying arks in ‘Luther’ as he is very, very cool.)

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Graphista · 12/10/2018 18:59

Buscaution - just because you don't LIKE the pronunciation (and you're not the only one others have much more politely stated this too, the premise of the thread is disliked pronunciations) DOESN'T MEAN IT IS WRONG.

"The confusion comes from mixing the phonetic sound Huh with the letter sound aitch." According to WHOM? And actually even though I say "aitch" myself I can understand and appreciate WITHOUT BEING CRITICAL that for others it differs.

"The letter sound has been taught to people incorrectly" only according to you.

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buscaution · 12/10/2018 18:59

blackout. I explained where it came from, the crossover of the phonetic and letter sound. That was literally all i said about H. Nothing inflammatory intended Sad

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YeTalkShiteHen · 12/10/2018 19:01

Right so in your not so humble opinion it’s only Scots who pronounce J in a way you dislike that are wrong, but Northern Irish folk who pronounce H the way they were taught aren’t?

Tell me again how it’s not an issue with Scots?

For the record, I have no dog in the fight about haitch, I’m not so arrogant as to assume that people who pronounce things differently to how I do are wrong.

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Blackoutblinds · 12/10/2018 19:01

But you’re saying I’m wrong.

You. As an English person is saying that my pronunciation isn’t correct. It’s wrong. And you are making a judgement on me for how I say it.

It’s just another way for you to reinforce ethnic / racial / cultural superiority and stereotypes and that IS wrong.

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OvO · 12/10/2018 19:02

I’m now arguing with my DH as he doesn’t have an l in calm (just the tiniest hint of an L) and he says offen for often. Shock

We’re from the same part of the country as well!

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YeTalkShiteHen · 12/10/2018 19:02

It’s just another way for you to reinforce ethnic / racial / cultural superiority and stereotypes and that IS wrong.

Absolutely agree with this.

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FannyFifer · 12/10/2018 19:03

From Fife, taught Jai, say Jai.
Interestingly though just asked my family, 8 year old says Jay, 13 year old says Jai ( on the basis that Jay is a name not a letter) Irish husband says Jay. We are now all arguing.

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buscaution · 12/10/2018 19:05

My comment about the letter sound being incorrectly taught was regarding Jai. Not H.

I only mentioned H because someone asked why I had overlooked it. I hadn't. I talked about it way back.

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Bowerbird5 · 12/10/2018 19:06

So teach phonics there is a note at the bottom that says to be aware of local dialects!

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YeTalkShiteHen · 12/10/2018 19:07

So J is the only letter with a differing pronunciation, of 3 letters identified with regional/national pronunciations that you have an issue with?

Tell me again how my comment about snobbery and Scots was wrong?

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AlmondVanilla · 12/10/2018 19:09

I'm sitting here try to say them in an English accent (not sure where my English accent is from 😂) I could see how they sound the same. Like "ordinary" and "awesome" . Am I on to something or completely wrong?

Yes. The "or" in "ordinary" is the same sound as "awe" in "awesome".

Would you like to buy some awesome things at this auction or go and buy some ordinary coffee? Again, all the same sound to me! Wink

Does that mean that the word 'ordained' becomes 'awdained', and 'order' become 'aw-da' ?

Actually, the speaker in the House of Commons does say 'Aw-da'!

Yes indeed!

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buscaution · 12/10/2018 19:09

You. As an English person is saying that my pronunciation isn’t correct. It’s wrong. And you are making a judgement on me for how I say it

Well you are wrong. I AM NOT A FUCKING ENGLISH PERSON.

Now, what did I mention earlier about people not being able to read?


It’s just another way for you to reinforce ethnic / racial / cultural superiority and stereotypes and that IS wrong.

Actually no. No. Fucking no.

SOME Scottish people say JAI. I am not talking about ALL Scottish people. When o said jai is wrong I meant jai is wrong. I categorically did not want to get into a fucking race row.

And I need to wind my neck in?

Please. Just stop with the shot about stereotyping. I can't repeat enough time that I did not say ALL Scottish people.

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Cattenberg · 12/10/2018 19:10

I say the "l" in almond and don't like the "ahmond" pronunciation.

My colleague pronounces broccoli as brockly. I don't know if it's wrong, but it gets on my nerves. She says it a lot as she often makes Brockly Soup.

I'm sure I annoy some people by pronouncing poor the same as paw and garage as "garridge" instead of to rhyme with Farage.

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AlmondVanilla · 12/10/2018 19:11

The only Rs I think I really pronounce are at the start of the word.

So in that sentence I would only have pronounced really, pronounce. The others are not really an R but an ah sound

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AlmondVanilla · 12/10/2018 19:12

Although "word" is more 'wuuhd or "wehd". No intelligible "r"

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