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To say it's NOT pronounced like this?

718 replies

DaanSaaf · 11/10/2018 21:31

Cutlery.

Cut-le-ree
Not cuttle-ree

Sets my teeth on edge. What pronunciations annoy you?

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AlmondVanilla · 12/10/2018 12:56

That is how auction sounds. Or and awe sound exactly the same.

If people can tell the difference when someone actually says it, they don't sound exactly the same though.

Auction & Awsome are the same sound.

5cats · 12/10/2018 12:56

Ethereal was one word I used to pronounce wrong due to solitary reading Blush

AlmondVanilla · 12/10/2018 12:57

Would you like to buy some awesome stuff at this auction or go and by a coffee?

All the same Grin for me anyway

Myimaginarycathasfleas · 12/10/2018 12:59

Livid I’ve read those threads!

And of course you’re right about choreeso outside Spain itself (and as it happens the part of Spain where I spend a lot of my time).

It’s more the gratuitous ‘itso’ pronunciation that gets me. I don’t know where it originated but it caught on like a virus.

AnElderlyLadyOfMediumHeight · 12/10/2018 13:00

I say MISSile (not 'missle', mind you - the 'ile' is clear). Do some people say missILE?

Bumdisease, it is 'the accent making or sound like aw'. Non-rhotic speakers presumably use 'ar', 'or' etc to indicate sounds (rather than 'ah', or 'aw', which admittedly would probably be less confusing) because they are the first they think of. There's nothing wrong with that. It might be nice if we considered rhotic speakers and used 'ah' or 'aw', yes, and actually I do try to do this. But I'm not sure not doing it warrants passive-aggressive point-making (although as I posted above, neither can I blame rhotic speakers too much for doing it - the cultural stranglehold of RP must be rather irritating).

AnElderlyLadyOfMediumHeight · 12/10/2018 13:01

AlmondVanilla, all the same for me too.

LividAtDolphins · 12/10/2018 13:01

In linguistics, when two different spelling structures assume the same pronunciation in a certain accent, it's called a merger. Hundreds of mergers have been described and debated at one point or another. This case is a good example of the paw-poor merger and the caught-court merger, which are common among most non-rhotic speakers (which is most people in England).

Myimaginarycathasfleas · 12/10/2018 13:01

@YeTalkShiteHen say it how you like, you’ll only sound like a twat if you do the ‘itso’ thing! 😁

YeTalkShiteHen · 12/10/2018 13:02

Myimaginarycathasfleas oh that’s a relief, I knew it wasn’t “itso” at the end, I read it as chor-eeso so maybe I should say it that way?

AnElderlyLadyOfMediumHeight · 12/10/2018 13:03

I was completely aware of the thing vs think controversy (I'm Team Think, obviously) before I heard about it on here. It's 'If you think.. you've got another think coming', and part of the impact (and the appeal) is the grammatically non-standard use of 'think'. 'Another thing' really makes no sense.

YeTalkShiteHen · 12/10/2018 13:04

The children’s book “What The Ladybird Heard” is a great example of how accents affect pronunciation.

My non-rhotic speaking Mum (born in Wimbledon raised in Dorset) could read it beautifully and it all rhymed.

I, however, sound ridiculous because in my accent (bizarre mixture of Angus, Edinburgh and Lanarkshire) hardly any of it rhymes!

thenewaveragebear1983 · 12/10/2018 13:05

My husband says cuttle-ree. It gives me the rage.

Juells · 12/10/2018 13:07

Auction & Awsome are the same sound.

Wow - completely different for me. Auc is short and awe is long.

Would you like to buy some awesome stuff at this auction or go and by a coffee?

All the same - for me anyway

Nope, three distinctly different sounds. Grin

Chocolatedeficitdisorder · 12/10/2018 13:07

Auction & Awsome are the same sound.

They're the same for me too in my Scottish accent.

If you stuck an 'r' sound in either of them they would sound odd. So many English folk put the 'r' sound in which I just can't fathom.

Ork-shon (like the beginning of Orkney)
Orsum (like the beginning of Orson Wells)

Myimaginarycathasfleas · 12/10/2018 13:11

@YeTalkShiteHen chor-reeso is absolutely fine. Although as a vegetarian I don’t even know why I care!

LividAtDolphins · 12/10/2018 13:15

chor-reeso is absolutely fine. Although as a vegetarian I don’t even know why I care!

I'm a vegetarian and I care because when people say "don't you miss meat?" I say "Not really... maybe chorizo". Grin Seriously!

prettybird · 12/10/2018 13:15

Talking about words mispronounced as a result of solitary reading, I'll have to admit to "mizzled" Blush

I was in my mid 20s before I worked out that the word "miss-led" that I would hear and understand was the same word as "mizzled" which is how I would read "misled" Blush

"Indictmement" is another one Blush

pigsDOfly · 12/10/2018 13:15

What annoys me is when Americans talk about a 'British accent'. There's no such thing as this thread shows.

Mind you I suppose we talk about an American accent although I think the accents across North America and the Southern States sound less diverse to the English ear than the accents across Britain - obviously not including central America here.

buscaution · 12/10/2018 13:21

It’s not wrong, so you’d look a bit foolish doing that.

I would not. Jai is absolutely wrong.

Myimaginarycathasfleas · 12/10/2018 13:22

@Livid 😂

YeTalkShiteHen · 12/10/2018 13:22

I would not. Jai is absolutely wrong

No, it’s just different to what you say.

Snobbery however is pretty wrong.

Chocolatedeficitdisorder · 12/10/2018 13:24

I would not. Jai is absolutely wrong.

To you. Jai sounds perfectly correct to me and how I was taught when I grew up in a European capital city.

buscaution · 12/10/2018 13:29

No, it’s just different to what you say.

It's not just different. It is incorrect. I understand lots of words have variations in pronunciation, but the alphabet? The absolute basis of the English language? Sorry but no. The letter is JAY.

Snobbery however is pretty wrong.

It's not snobbery ffs. What a pathetic attempt to solidify your comment.

buscaution · 12/10/2018 13:29

To you. Jai sounds perfectly correct to me and how I was taught when I grew up in a European capital city.

The letter is JAY.

BumDisease · 12/10/2018 13:33

"It's not just different. It is incorrect. I understand lots of words have variations in pronunciation, but the alphabet? The absolute basis of the English language? Sorry but no. The letter is JAY."

Says who?

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