Is there a Rebecca Humphries thread? Her public statement about the end of her relationship is awesome.

[bluetrampolines]

I will try and link. I love that she took the cat!

Wow - I'd suggest that if you are not in control to the extent you can't help snogging people, you probably shouldn't drink...

Kissing someone whilst drunk ( or even a little bit tipsy ) is not the end of the world, most of us have done it

I truly haven't and it would be the end of my relationship in my DP did.

Let's face it, a snog rarely comes out of nowhere either, there has to be a prelude of some kind which shows intent, even if you've been drinking (unless you literally go out, get drunk and start snogging randoms. Classy).

Kissing someone whilst drunk ( or even a little bit tipsy ) is not the end of the world, most of us have done it

Fairly pathetic though, right?

When you’re under the influence of alcohol you’re not in total control

Ah the bullshit excuse of the perpetually unfaithful ^oh I couldn't help it, alcohol made me do it*

If alcohol gets you to that state then you may find drinking less helps.

crivit I can only assume you are choosing to ignore RHs response then, as she evidently found it unacceptable. Regardless of what the others involved think, she was hurt by their actions, she was done a disservice by her long term partner!

Frankly I believe her, as her response sounds reasonable, familiar to many, and would wonder why anyone would want negate her feelings, which is what I think you, amongst others, are doing in trying to be so 'reasonable'. As others have said, that is akin to silencing her female voice...

She would have had more dignity if she had said nothing

I think her dignity lies in saying what happens to women all the time and is just seen as part of the 'push/pull' of relationships- all women jealous harpies blah blah blah

Does anyone on MN ever do anything wrong?
I’ve been out ( years ago I must say ) had a few drinks & snogged someone I shouldn’t have.
I’m human, I make the occasional mistake.

Maybe Seanns relationship isn’t that great? she seems almost relived to be shot of him.
Strictly is known for this sort of thing anyway, it happens every year. they work closely together for hours on end, they build up a relationship.
Maybe the strictly bosses put certain people together on purpose?
I don’t know, it’s all a fuss over nothing to me. They weren’t married, no children involved.

Kissing someone whilst drunk ( or even a little bit tipsy ) is not the end of the world, most of us have done it.

If you are married or in a committed relationship, its cheating. Very simple. It might not be the 'end of the world' but its a path you don't go down.

And I've never done it. I've kissed many a frog whilst drunk over the years, but I can truthfully say I've been completely arseholed on many occasion since having been married and I have never even remotely gone there.

"I don’t know, it’s all a fuss over nothing to me. They weren’t married, no children involved."

So, totally ok to humiliate your boyfriend/girlfriend, as long as you're not married and no children. Sounds great.

I must be really weird because despite 15 plus years of a relationship (non married so totally unimportant!) I have never snogged anyone else when steaming drunk. Not even slightly.

They weren’t married, no children involved.

I don't think either of those things matters particularly; are you saying only married people with DC can be hurt by infidelity? They were in a committed relationship. He gaslighted her by suggesting she was "mental" for thinking he might have a thing for the woman he was out drinking with. Thats awful behaviour.

Cheating is cheating is cheating. It can be a kiss, a fuck, a text, whatever, it's still cheating. If you're happy and secure and care for the other person you simply don't do it regardless of drink taken.

Does anyone on MN ever do anything wrong? Plenty. But after 30 years of marriage I have not snogged anyone else, nor groped, inappropriately kissed, sexted, flirted etc etc.

I think there is a difference between supporting the 'done to' partner and thinking less of the 'done by' partner and outright condemnation of them.

Katya and Sean(n) acted selfishly, thoughtlessly. I judge them for that alone. If one partner wishes to accept it, fine. But I see no reason to try to downplay the hurt felt by any party!

Sorry but if you love your partner and want to be faithful to them it's very easy to do. I've been on plenty of nights out, had drinks and never gave anyone else a 'little kiss'. Can't believe people think this behaviour is acceptable in a committed relationship. The excuses are ridiculous, take responsibility for your actions.

I don’t know, it’s all a fuss over nothing to me. They weren’t married, no children involved

So only married people are in committed relationships? What a bizarre morality you live by.

Completely agree with crivit and MrsReacher1
None of us know anything about the people involved and I find it difficult to get worked up about the relationship between random strangers told from one side

None of us know anything about the people involved and I find it difficult to get worked up about the relationship between random strangers told from one side

EVERY thread anyone posts on seeking advice on MN, whether relationship or otherwise, is from one side from talking about random strangers. No one seems to have a problem with that.

crivit How very dare you display a sense of proportion so shamelessly. AIBU to think that's bullying? And given that a poster or two can discern a person's inner being by looking at their face I think it's incredibly arrogant of you to think you can argue with people who have supernatural powers.

@CuriousaboutSamphire - I've read Rebecca's statement and obviously it didn't portray Seann in anything other than a negative light. It may well all be true, my point is that I do not know and that most other people don't know either. If she was hurt by things that have happened and she wants out of the relationship that is obviously ok. Why would I want someone to stay in a relationship that made them unhappy and from which they could see no coming back?

Her words are very familiar, and the situation she describes all too common. At no point have I wanted to negate her feelings and I've not stated that I think she should keep quiet. I have no desire to 'silence her female voice' as you allude. That is an allegation I find incredibly insulting. If my trying to be 'reasonable' is read by some people in that way I'm not sure what I am supposed to do? Am I meant to just stop being 'reasonable' and nod politely? Or should I join in with their actions? Not happy with either tbh.

The photo was taken on Sean(n)’s girlfriend’s birthday, when she was home alone because he’d chosen to go drinking with Katya.

Doubt even the few “cool girl / wife” MNetters would think that was OK!

She would have had more dignity if she had said nothing
Yeah, let's keep all those abused women quiet, brush it under the carpet, pretend it doesn't happen...

When you’re under the influence of alcohol you’re not in total control.

I mean, people are still held to account for their actions while intoxicated in every other area. We punish drunk drivers, people who assault others when drunk, we don’t just say ‘oh it’s fine you weren’t in total control’. Not to mention the fact that you’re in total control when you decide to drink.

Does nobody on MN do anything wrong?

What a weird conclusion to derive from this discussion. I think most people can sense that being unfaithful to your partner is on a different plane to many of the other things humans ‘do wrong’. Betraying somebody who you claim to love by stepping outside of the boundaries of fidelity you’ve both presumably agreed on is a form of emotional abuse. Why would you inflict that kind of pain on someone you allegedly loved at one point when you can end the relationship honourably and then do what you want?

Because cheaters want to have their cake and eat it too.

I don’t buy that people who think cheating is wrong or unforgivable are painting themselves as saints who never put a foot wrong. They just have a particular moral code that I’m guessing you lack (which is fair enough, no judgment there as long as you’re honest with any partners you may have).

Personally, a drunken snog would not be okay to me. Not for me to do and not for my partner. But people are different and have different boundaries. It´s fine for you and your partner, fair enough.

crivit whilst I appreciate I have directed a fair few comment to you, I didn't actually ascribe all of that to you! Some was my opinion, some was posts by others and my thoughts on them all as a whole!

It really wasn't all about you!

Doubt even the few “cool girl / wife” MNetters would think that was OK!

I wouldn't have bothered about my ex-H going out on my birthday. In fact he went out on my 30th with my blessing. I would have had an issue with him drunken snogging someone!

I’d be heartbroken if my dh did this, but I wouldn’t necessarily divorce him over it. But if we had no dcs and weren’t married and if he’d gaslighted me and repeatedly called me a psycho / mental / nuts etc, then I’d do exactly what RH has done and I’d do it as publicly as possible. Good for her. He sounds like a prize twat for using the classic cheaters “you’re mental” line .

I think he’s made himself and Katya look a right pair of dicks. Every time I see a photo of them grinning on tv, (there’s been a lot of tv coverage today), I think they look thoroughly stupid.

They had some weird woman on This Morning trying to defend him as well. I swear she was a ringer as she did nothing for his cause. Just made herself and him look even sillier.

@PurpleTrilby do you mean Justin Lee Collins?