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Is there a Rebecca Humphries thread? Her public statement about the end of her relationship is awesome.

382 replies

bluetrampolines · 08/10/2018 21:32

I will try and link. I love that she took the cat!

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BertrandRussell · 11/10/2018 20:03

"All those cheerleading a published piece, where will you be when this woman actually needs RL support"
I don't know her. I hope her family and friends support her. As I support my dd. And as I hope more women will be supported if this is talked about more.

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe2726 · 11/10/2018 20:09

Yes well, if we paid no attention to that misogynist press they would be the ones shutting up shop.

Whether this woman composed an eloquent piece of writing or a jumbled up outpouring of feelings, they're valid and I hope she will come through this unscathed and left alone (if that's what she wants). My point is that even if she doesn't choose publicity, it sells papers and we have a public who would give two figs for this woman or her privacy if she wanted it.

We can blame menz all you want; we should also be slapping the celeb-gossipers with some responsibility too.

Poor woman; I hope she really did opt for this and is happy about the outcome because she wouldn't have had a choice anyway.

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe2726 · 11/10/2018 20:11

*wouldn't give two figs

IPromiseIWontBeNaughty · 11/10/2018 20:26

He’s angry he got caught. He’s not at all sorry.

Rebecca is a star. I hope she is left alone as she’s done nothing wrong.

Gingerrogered · 11/10/2018 20:54

thought her statement was pretty insidious and carefully crafted.

Seems like it was. He split with his old PR company and it seems like she and his ex PR have created a carefully orchestrated hit.

I don’t know about all this ‘It’s misogyny to not think she’s amazing’ stuff is about.

Personally I find the attitudes on here that professional, metropolitan women in their earlier thirties are so pathetic, weak and feeble that they couldn’t possibly deal with a shitty lying boyfriend having a snog without collapsing into paroxysms of distress over the trauma and abuse they’ve suffered and calling Women’s Aid for support, far, far, far more misogynistic.

Or that women are incapable of thinking any thought on a news story about another woman more complex than ‘Hey, I’ve got a vagina, you’ve got a vagina - so you must be right’: Now that is fucking misogyny. Insisting that women must always toe the sisterhood or our ovaries will shrivel up and fall out. Probably.

FFS, even the ‘gaslighting’. The bloke is a tosser. He’s been standing on stage and going on TV for the last four years taking the mickey out of her being deluded thinking she was going to turn him into some lentil weaving, yogurt bothering bearded man bunned woke bro who went for morning yoga lessons and Quinoa and Spinach brunches. He made it abundantly and publicly bloody obvious he had no intention of doing that and wasn’t going to give up his hard drinking, hard partying comedy club lifestyle.

For her to claim this sort of thing has come as a bolt from the blue and they were in a committed and loving relationship is clearly nonsense. HE WAS ON TELLY TALKING ABOUT WHAT AN IRRITATING WOMAN SHE WAS. How the fuck can she claim he was gaslighting her into pretending everything was okay?

She is going down the victim route. I just find it absolutely incomprehensible that so many women are prepared to portray themselves as such helpless victims over such trivial things. That’s bloody internalised misogyny if nothing else is. ‘I can’t possibly cope with this because I’m a girl and he’s a boy so there’s no possible waaay I could get through this without being completely traumatised.

Yes the statement about dumping him and taking the cat was funny. Maybe follow it up with ‘yes he was a tosser, I should have dumped him years ago’.

But this public performance, linking herself to #metoo, #believewomen and DV charities and claiming she’s traumatised whilst at the same time doing ‘Oh, did you know I’m an actress? Here’s the details of my agent and PR. Happy to do press and chat shows and reality TV’ schtick is just tasteless and cravenly trying to catch a ride on a tenuous link to other people’s zeitgeist to further her own career.

mydogisthebest · 11/10/2018 21:58

The press are not trying to discredit her as far as I can see. They are still portraying her as an abused illtreated girlfriend. It is the public's comments that show people are show less sympathy for her and more for Seann.

The so called journalists are having a field day trying to completely destroy Seann's career and, possibly, his life. Of course I am absolutely sure that none of them have ever been unfaithful, never ever given a quick kiss to anyone other than their partner.

They didn't even have to do any work for the story did they? A member of the public took the video and then gave, or more likely, sold it to the papers. Not sure how much of a massive dick you would have to be to even think of taking the video let alone then passing it to a paper.

Meanwhile Patissere Valerie is likely going to have close all their outlets putting 200 people out of a job because 1 person has committed fraud. No mention of the name of that person even though what they have done is illegal. I am pretty sure that it would not be that difficult to find out the person's name especially for a proper journalist

Jitters22 · 11/10/2018 22:40

Not sure how much of a massive dick you would have to be to even think of taking the video let alone then passing it to a paper.

Not sure how much of a massive dick you would have to be to appear in one of the biggest shows on TV then go out on the town and get absolutely pissed out of your brains and end up snogging your married dance partner in full public view, so some other 'dick' can get footage of you and 'pass it to a paper'.

Every single thing that has happened to poor old Seann this week is 100% self inflicted.

You don't have to look very far to see who is the biggest dick of them all, and it's not the person who took the video, nor is it the press, nor is it the ex girlfriend.

It's the drunken pillock with the long term girlfriend who was out on the streets, pissed out of his brains, snogging his married dance partner.

AynRandTheObjectivist · 11/10/2018 22:51

Tell me, mydogisthebest, what's the reason for your clear bias regarding this incident and determination to see this nasty bloke as the victim of basically everyone?

I have a cynical idea but I could be wrong. I'm probably right.

Havaina · 11/10/2018 22:53

Personally I find the attitudes on here that professional, metropolitan women in their earlier thirties are so pathetic, weak and feeble that they couldn’t possibly deal with a shitty lying boyfriend having a snog without collapsing into paroxysms of distress over the trauma and abuse they’ve suffered and calling Women’s Aid for support, far, far, far more misogynistic.

But it wasn't the snog caused the trauma, it was his continually aggressive behaviour and the insistence she was crazy.

HE WAS ON TELLY TALKING ABOUT WHAT AN IRRITATING WOMAN SHE WAS. How the fuck can she claim he was gaslighting her into pretending everything was okay?

Comediand do often take the out of their spouses. It's often not real, just comedy.

Makethisquick · 11/10/2018 23:00

I think when someone publicly humiliates you and you are in the public eye, normal rules do not apply, and you can choose to respond publicly and still retain your dignity. If you don't want to be talked about, don't fuck people over.

Gingerrogered · 12/10/2018 00:31

She didn’t refer to a pattern of behaviour. She just referred to that one phone call over and over as proof he was ‘controlling’ and ‘gaslighting’ and had been lying to her for weeks.

But the thing you’re all forgetting is that the phone call happened before the picture was taken. In all likelihood he was absolutely telling the truth when he said nothing had happened.

Rebecca, on the other hand, responded to a phone call to say he was going for a quick drink on the way home by demanding he get home at once and accusing him of having an affair as she admits she had been doing repeatedly for weeks.

Now, given it seems to have been a relatively quick drunken kiss before they parted and her husband has been working with both of them and doesn’t have any concerns wouldn’t assume it was down to a torrid affair. I can’t see any reason to believe Rebecca’s claims they’d been at it for weeks when people who’d actually been with them during that time don’t seem to think anything untoward was happening.

To be honest, I do think that if people are constantly being accused of something then they can eventually get driven into it. Partly because of the constant suggestion, and partly because if you know your partner is going to treat you like you are cheating regardless of whether you are or not then you’re going to think you might as well be hung for a sheep as a lamb.

I would guess in most mature committed relationships the response would be far more like Katya and Neill’s. Awkward embarrassment and being told you’ve been really stupid and perhaps given the silent treatment for a few days. That would certainly be my response if my DH did the same.

I’ve never, ever known a grown woman to respond to a snog the way Rebecca has. I’ve never known anybody above GCSE year resound to a snog the way Rebecca has. This whole ‘you had a snog so I’m being abused and I’m going to make a statement to the press and tell them your snog has not made me a victim’. I know that Mumsnet is quite high on the acceptance-o-meter for batshit behaviour but that’s off the scale. It was a snog ffs, he wasn’t caught butt naked having it away with the entire Swedish Volleyball team in a SoHo sex dungeon FFS.

Seann and Rebecca both seem like incredibly immature self absorbed people who were both unhappy in the relationship and both behaving badly. He seems to be a bit of a callous Jack the lad with a nasty streak who wasn’t really into the relationship but wasn’t brave enough to end it. She really seems to me to have been the controlling one, a bit manipulative (I know you have no choice about working on my birthday so I’m going to sit on my own at home so you feel sufficiently guilty about it) and definitely seems to love being a drama queen. It seems to have been an entirely toxic relationship all round with no trust and not much love either.

But honestly, is this the level of hysteria we’ve reached? Man has brief drunken kiss with another woman and people are calling for him to be sacked and never work on TV again? I don’t think it’s just Seann and Rebecca who need to grow up and calm the fuck down.

HelenaDove · 12/10/2018 01:01

"Comedians do often take the mickey out of their spouses. It's often not real, just comedy"

Mickey Flanagan does it.

Sakura7 · 12/10/2018 08:16

Ginger there was clearly something brewing between them, there's always a build up before before people actually get together. Considering they've basically been living in each other's pockets for weeks, it's likely something happened before they got caught. Also, would you not be pissed off if your partner left you home alone on your birthday to go drinking with a woman he's seen all day every day for weeks? Being annoyed by that is not 'psycho' it's a totally normal reaction. Honestly don't understand why you're so intent on attacking the woman here when the man is clearly the one in the wrong.

Sakura7 · 12/10/2018 08:20

Also Ginger, as has been said multiple times now, it's not just the snog, it's the way she has been treated and the gaslighting. She's getting support from a lot of women because many of us have been with men like this and are all too familiar with this behaviour, it's like they follow a script.

She's not being manipulative or obsessive or any of the things you accuse her of, she made ONE statement for crying out loud!

knottyhair · 12/10/2018 08:38

ginger, no pattern of behaviour?? "he aggressively and repeatedly called me a psycho/nuts/mental, as he has done countless times throughout our relationship". No, no pattern here Hmm. What a thoroughly unpleasant post you wrote.

BlancheM · 12/10/2018 09:22

Ginger where are you getting all your information from?
The 'statement' Rebecca put out on twitter doesn't represent her in any way shape or form the way you're making out. She isn't going the victim route. No one is trying to paint her as a 'feeble woman'. She's shown herself to be quite the opposite.

The posts here aren't saying it's misogyny to not think she's amazing. You can feel as indifferent towards her as you like unless you know her personally. It's the way she's being torn apart and analysed when she's done nothing wrong which is misogynistic.

mydogisthebest · 12/10/2018 09:28

So the bias that Rebecca is a saint and can't possibly be lying is ok is it?

I am not 100% on Seann's side but I don't understand or think it fair that someone is treated the way he has been treated when no one, not the pubic, not the press, not the Loose Women, not Schofield and Holly, not Lorraine nor anyone but Seann and Rebecca know what the truth is.

Katya is not being hounded by the press is she? No she hasn't been accused of abuse but she definitely snogged another man and she is married.

We do all know for sure that Seann and Katya have cheated on their respective partners, because we have evidence to prove it. They were both stupid and being drunk isn't really an excuse.

There is no real evidence though to support the claims that Seann is emotionally abusive. It's Rebecca's word against Seann's word, and I think this is where human bias comes in - people are automatically on Rebecca's side because she's the one who has been publicly wronged, and so people are quite happy to take her statement as gospel (on the basis they have pre-existing sympathy for her) without stepping back and thinking about it logically.

Rebecca could have put out a simple statement but instead she wrote a very cleverly written statement written with the intention of throwing Seann under the bus. She doesn't use the words abuse or gaslighting but pretty much accuses him of it anyway plus the dig at the way he spells his name.

She says he called her a psycho but maybe she was accusing him of something going on with Katya before the snog which may or may not be true. Maybe she regularly accuses him of being unfaithful and screams and shouts at him about it. If my partner acted like that to me and I was innocent I would pretty much think they were a psycho too.

I'm not calling her a liar at all, but neither am I going to say I absolutely believe every word she says because I/we don't know either way.

The allegations of abuse could be true but equally, she could have seized the opportunity to get revenge on him and ruin his career at the same time and written a carefully crafted statement unfairly dragging his name through the mud. None of us know.

Seann being nasty about his girlfriend in his stand up is not nice although presumably she knew the things he was saying but many comics make jokes at their OH's expense because, you know, it's a joke!

Butterymuffin · 12/10/2018 09:35

Haven't seen anyone say Rebecca is a saint. Mostly people are just saying she's handled this well and stood up for herself.

IWannaSeeHowItEnds · 12/10/2018 09:38

So Ginger, in your world, a woman who suspects her partner is cheating and challenges him on his behaviour, is essentially causing him to cheat! Riiight Hmm
Stop making out that she is some kind of master manipulator for wanting her bf to come home after work and spend the evening with her on her birthday. Maybe she wanted to wait for him rather than go out with other people.

BlancheM · 12/10/2018 09:41

Mydog Clearly that bias doesn't really exist as your post shows any many, many others.
It's not a normal first reaction to question everyone's written word with 'what if that's a lie?' It's her truth and she has the right to say it. Why is the spotlight on a few paragraphs of hers rather than being on the actions which led to them??
She knows him as Sean, Seann is his stage name so really it's only a dig if you read it that way. Even if it was a dig, good for her. Hardly the crime of the century to have a playful dig at a cheater who also made a living of taking the piss!
Has Seann actually denied what she said? No. Not outright. Why not?
Why would Katya be hounded by the press? I'm surprised she hasn't been tbh. It's only fair she isn't, though. She's not part of Seann and Rebecca's relationship and made no commitment to either of them. It's Seann's mistake where it comes through his own relationship.

BlancheM · 12/10/2018 09:42

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BlancheM · 12/10/2018 09:44

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Azelma · 12/10/2018 09:52

If your partner has concerns that you might be being unfaithful, then in a loving and committed relationship, the only course of action is to be honest about whatever it is that is giving cause for concern and stopping that behaviour in order to reassure your partner.

It seems that in this case, Sean did absolutely nothing to reassure Rebecca over what might or what might be going on. Instead he called her nuts/psycho etc. And she was vindicated on the night of her birthday.

Now, if he wasn't "that much into the relationship", he should have had the guts to end it.

I am also sure that there are scenarios where one partner accuses the other of infertility based on no evidence at all. In that situation, if the accusations continue despite reassurances etc, then it clearly isn't a healthy relationship and should be ended. If Rebecca was throwing completely unfounded accusations Sean's way, then why didn't he end the relationship before snogging Katya?

I don't buy the "she accused me so therefore drove me to do it" argument. That is used as an excuse for behaviour all the time, but is utterly spineless and putting all the blame/responsibility on the other person.

Whatevszz · 12/10/2018 10:09

Please stop using the word snog everyone it's boke.

Whatevszz · 12/10/2018 10:10

It was her birthday and he is clearly a scumbag.

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