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to believe the UK should take highly-skilled Venezuelan refugees

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longfingernails · 05/10/2018 21:59

Hundreds of thousands of Venezuelans have had to flee from the inevitable consequences of unadulterated socialism.

Amongst them will be highly skilled workers. We should do our best to seek them out and offer them refugee status together with the right to work in Britain.

If we are selective in our choices, in time they could form as effective a bloc as the Floridian Cubans.

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derxa · 06/10/2018 17:48

I feel better after my little rant! Grin

Xenia · 06/10/2018 17:48

We certainly have a shortage of housing in the UK where there are jobs. If we changed statutory equirement for those lucky enough to get subsidised social housing so eg people had to share homes more that might help eg 2 singl mothers each with a baby could share a 2 bed flat as so many people who get no benefits now and always have had to share.

woodhill · 06/10/2018 18:05

Good point about not paying enough to highly skilled people. I agree about the food aspect and it's good if you can produce your own food otherwise the population could be controlled by lack of food

I think we are over populated particularly in the south east and the roads are chaotic. The politicians keep on banging on about building more housing but what is the point if we keep on importing more people.

I also think it has a bad effect on the environment as all the concrete causes flooding.

CoalTit · 06/10/2018 18:14

If it wasn't for the corrupt and incompetent government there it [Venezuela] would be a fabulous place to live.
If it wasn't for the extremely vindictive US government and its incessant attempts to destabilise the country with coup attempts, sanctions, endless agitprop and so on the Venezuelan government, democratically elected again and again, might have more success running what was a very unequal country with a great deal of poverty, despite its tremendous petroleum reserves, when Chavez was elected.
"I've been there, so I know. It's beautiful but the stupid politicians spoiled it" isn't the authorative argument that you think it is.

OlennasWimple · 06/10/2018 18:25

Perhaps a Australian points visa system should be introduced.

The UK has had a points based immigration system since 2008....

The ignorance on this thread is astounding!

1tisILeClerc · 06/10/2018 18:45

Coaltit
It is obviously a far more complicated issue. As it is not the subject of the thread a superficial answer is adequate, however there is relevance in that it was a very wealthy country which has collapsed, but the people are as advanced as the west.

brimfullofasha · 06/10/2018 20:03

I'm pleased to see that others have pointed out that you are conflating refugees with migrants and that this is factually incorrect. Refugees are given protection in our country because they need a safe place to live. It would be in contravention of the Refugee Convention if we were to offer asylum to only skilled people and leave the vulnerable to be killed and tortured in their home countries. When Cameron agreed to allow Syrian refugees to settle (temporarily) in the uk he made a commitment to take the most vulnerable- including elderly, young and disabled, rather than those who could fill a skills shortage.

sproutsplease · 06/10/2018 21:35

Though the Syrian refugees I know settled in an ecomically deprived area and have managed to open a bakery and a barbers shop so they are already up and running with contributing to the local economy, ( plus the cakes are really tasty)

Xenia · 06/10/2018 21:56

brim, that is largely correct except that under EU law they are looked after by the first country they enter in the EU (unles we take them eg direct from Syria tio the UK or they apply to the UK and are accepted whilst they are in a non EU state).

Disabrie22 · 07/10/2018 17:34

This is the kind of thread that makes me really depressed about the world - you make your own way in life and if you don’t you can’t blame other people for what you don’t have.
(Speaks child of very poor working class parents who worked hard for all they had.)
I can’t believe some of the rascist, ignorant points of view I’ve read here. If there’s anything I’m worried about here for the future of my children is that there are more of people like this in the world than I thought.

FruitofAutumn · 07/10/2018 17:51

managed to open a bakery and a barbers shop so they are already up and running with contributing to the local economy, ( plus the cakes are really tasty)
presumably people were eating bread and having their hair cut before the syrian refugees came, so I am not sure how this is a contribution?

sproutsplease · 07/10/2018 18:00

These are both useful additions to an area that limited community resources. Also economies grow though trade, spend and the taxation that grows with it. Not really sure why anyone would fail to understand that small local enterprises are a contribution to society, particulary in areas that are deprived and under populated.

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