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to believe the UK should take highly-skilled Venezuelan refugees

162 replies

longfingernails · 05/10/2018 21:59

Hundreds of thousands of Venezuelans have had to flee from the inevitable consequences of unadulterated socialism.

Amongst them will be highly skilled workers. We should do our best to seek them out and offer them refugee status together with the right to work in Britain.

If we are selective in our choices, in time they could form as effective a bloc as the Floridian Cubans.

OP posts:
EmperorTomatoRetchup · 06/10/2018 01:36

Haven't been on these boards for a year or so

KC225 · 06/10/2018 03:06

Because that is exactly what that country needs to get back on its feet - a brain drain.

MemoryOfSleep · 06/10/2018 03:27

The problem with cherry picking highly skilled migrants from poorer countries is that their own countrymen are much worse off. If a country only has one doctor per 10,000 people and we take that doctor... Ethically, it's very sketchy.

Seniorschoolmum · 06/10/2018 03:29

Op, your values are making me queasy. Thank goodness most MNs have more humanity.

RedneckStumpy · 06/10/2018 03:50

Seniorschoolmum

It’s all about survival, nothing more nothing less.

RedneckStumpy · 06/10/2018 03:51

We are all born equal into this world, the only difference is money and guns.

NotACleverName · 06/10/2018 04:08

No more immigrants, the UK is FULL. Does Brexit not teach anyone anything. Enough already.

Aye the UK is full. No more immigrants. We can’t allow anymore babies to be born either. Since we’re so full. 😒

catlady3 · 06/10/2018 04:22

If you think putting out this hostility towards a particular group of immigrants is going to entice another group of immigrants to come to your precious country, you need a reality check. This bigotry will put off the highly skilled first because we've got all the choice, world's our oyster. Why would we put up with this.

Jayne232 · 06/10/2018 04:26

I thought you'd be too busy sorting out your IVA Katie.

hibeat · 06/10/2018 04:30

Somebody needed to have entertainment with pinot noir yesterday. Hard day at work ?
I felt slightly uneducated. Equating migrants with asylum seekers? Britain should have it's very own definition of an asylum seeker ? Taking a conjunctural state of affair (actual political situation in one state) for something that could span xxx years ( "in time ") ? And what is exactly the relationship between England and Venezuela that could create a geographical space similar to Florida in the US ? By the way Florida is 23% hispanic, but this population comes originally for a variety of states, not just one. Is this the basis for a new novel ? I don't drink. So I'll pass the grey wine. All those premises put together indicates an inebriated mind. Gibberish.

Nightwatch999 · 06/10/2018 04:34

F uck off OP trolling those on Benefits

ilooovechristmas · 06/10/2018 04:37

I don't think this person even hears them self, out with the bad and in with the good, hey 👋 you have a good IQ, YOU good man can come into our country. Here have a welcome pack a nice flat and a place at uni to study XYZ..... goes on to rape multiple women.... hmm how's that great IQ working out for ya?

ilooovechristmas · 06/10/2018 04:38

OP literally sounds like Hitler, and I truly hope, nothing ever happens to OP we're s/he needs disability benefits.

CaptainCorrigan · 06/10/2018 07:24

Ask home grown uni students who have no jobs or working in supermarkets what their thoughts on getting jobs they should rightly get but given to everyone else.
Go on student life it’s teaming with, nobody will employ me

Maybe because some of them go through school, college and uni thinking that just because they worked 6 hours a week in the local shop and have a degree that they can walk into a highly skilled job with no life skills or working environment experience and expect everything handed to them on a plate. Degree doesn't equal everything you want in the world. There is huge shortages in the nhs and other skilled professions, if these students aren't taking degrees to fill said positions where are we meant to get the people from? Start using art graduates as nurses?

CaptainCorrigan · 06/10/2018 07:25

The sooner people realise society is a lot more complicated than the black and white pages of the daily mail the better

bridgetoc · 06/10/2018 07:30

YABVU....... No chance.

bridgetoc · 06/10/2018 07:32

We are all born equal into this world, the only difference is money and guns.

What utter leftist nonsense.......

bridgetoc · 06/10/2018 07:39

Zero unskilled migration would mean a shortage of people to pick up the shit off our streets or clean in our hospitals, so that is ridiculous.

This sort of bullshit is constantly peddled by big business. My DH has to employ unskilled workers, as do I. We don't struggle to get English workers. Do you know why? Because we are willing to pay a decent wage and treat people that work for us with respect.

Big companies like Uber want a limitless supply of immigrants so they can keep their wage bill very low, and their profits high.

Wake up......

JassyRadlett · 06/10/2018 07:56

At the same time we should actively seek out the best migrants from around the world, especially those who have seen the horrors of socialism first hand and so will be naturally inclined towards free markets and enterprise.

Targeting immigration by political purity has been tried before.

Gilead · 06/10/2018 08:03

Same here Emporer. Stupidly thought through nonsense to disguise benefits bashing. Again. I actually thought (hoped) they’d been banned!

BlessYour2Sizes2SmallHeart · 06/10/2018 08:14

"longfingernails
We should encourage unskilled emigration by imposing greater conditionality on spousal and family privileges, having higher minimum income thresholds to remain resident."

The minimum thresholds are already high enough to tear families apart. So British citizens who fall in love and marry people from other countries shouldn't get to bring their spouse and in some cases children over as well unless they happen to be highly skilled or make 40k a year? Oh do fuck off. 🙄

Xenia · 06/10/2018 08:27

The Uk at the moment and the US both have the highest level of empoloyment since about the 1950s I believe. It's a really interesting change. It is the first year I can remember so many local notices in shops offering work, cards through the door (one from Royal Mail last week wanting Christmas workers) and that kind of thing. It may just be regional - we are SE but we certainly need people for some jobs which I am sure we will manage.

However I doubt we do Venez. much good if we take their best people.

Rosehip10 · 06/10/2018 08:28

OP you just sound like you are on a Rees-Mogg style love in - Daily Mail reader are we?

EnthusiasmIsDisturbed · 06/10/2018 08:31

I am deeply unhappy about the idea of sifting through refugees and asylum seekers and giving preferential treatment to those seemed to have the skills we need

I agree welcome and take care of refugees because it’s what they need not because it’s what we need

But this does happen we have seen it here and across Europe in the last few years

Xenia · 06/10/2018 08:40

It is certainly not an easy issue. If there were say 1 billion people at risk in their homeland of death we just could not take them no matter what asylum law says. That is awful but is the reality for most countries. Hopefully there will never be that many at risk of death at home.

If you move to economic migrant issues instead then even there it has usually been based on need - Windrush was based on UK need for those people.

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