to believe the UK should take highly-skilled Venezuelan refugees

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Hundreds of thousands of Venezuelans have had to flee from the inevitable consequences of unadulterated socialism.

Amongst them will be highly skilled workers. We should do our best to seek them out and offer them refugee status together with the right to work in Britain.

If we are selective in our choices, in time they could form as effective a bloc as the Floridian Cubans.

All refugees in need of protection from persecution should be given shelter and support whilst it is necessary. Skilled refugees should be able to work, and we should smooth the path for them to be able to use their skills as soon as possible

All highly skilled migrants who have the skills that the UK needs should be able to get the visas for which they qualify

I am deeply unhappy about the idea of sifting through refugees and asylum seekers and giving preferential treatment to those seemed to have the skills we need

Completely agree with this.

There's a huge difference between migration and asylum seeking refugees.

I agree that migrants moving here should be able to offer something useful to the country or economy (that might not be a highly skilled something, it could be artistic, caring or something else too)

But refugees? No - we should be looking to help all those in need, most vulnerable first. It's unlikely that the most vulnerable will be the most highly skilled. That shouldn't be relevant.

I definitely don't want to just import people of a specific political persuasion as you obviously do, OP.
It shoudn't be about trying to import future Conservative voters, or Labour or Ldems either.

I wouldn't ask anyone's politics, but check that they have no criminal record and are not on any terrorist watch list.
They would have to agree to abide by our laws & customs.

For refugees, it shouldn't matter whether they are fleeing a fascist / communist / religious hellhole, just whether they satisfy the international requirements to have refugee status.

For immigrants, the criteria for a visa should be whether they have a skill we need - which might even be with low or average pay, e.g. carers or some HCPs
The current income limits sometimes excludes junior doctors in specialist fields, whom the NHS have head-hunted

Sinuhe Benefits encourage dependency on the state.

Of course the state should generously step in when it comes to those who genuinely can't help themselves (such as the disabled), but on the whole I believe in encouraging self-sufficiency.

I think the right amount of state spending as a percentage of GDP is probably around 20% to 25% in an ideal economy. At the moment in Britain it is closer to 40%.

Benandhollysmum, you are not a skilled worker. But it’s okay as you’re ‘from here’, right?

I have 2 part time jobs where I get taxed to hell esp when doing overtime along with doing a course, that’s 2 more jobs than most of the migrants that have come here

Then blame your government, not the migrants. Honestly, as with most of the people who share your opinion, your anger is misplaced.

I just think of the homeless people I helped recently - I didn’t do much, just made some bags of toiletries/sanitary protection for female homeless and some toiletries inc razor for Male homeless people.

And then I think that they need a home before we give any skilled or unskilled refugees homes.
One of the homeless men I helped was an engineer in the armed forces.
Sadly he is about 8 years off getting a council property as he is a white, British, single Male. (I told him to think about identifying as a woman - he will probably fly to the top of the list) .
Can we not help our own first?
We have skilled workers and unskilled people living on our streets ffs!
I’m sick to death of helping other countries.
Yes, I feel dreadfully sorry for ANY refugee ( a real refugee, not an economic migrant).
It’s simply the luck of the draw where we are born isn’t it. But should a person in another country have to suffer because karma decreed that you were born in a third world country/war zone etc? Does it make it right to help someone at the expense of someone else?

I truly believe we need to get our own house in order first.
Get people off the streets.
Sort out housing.
Sort out waiting lists in the NHS.
And a lot of other things too.
Then and only then can we help others.
But charity does begin at home and why should a refugee be more important than our own people who might well freeze to death this winter................

Its actually not a million miles away from how The Third Reich got people to feel anger and animosity towards what Jewish people had supposedly ‘taken’ from them and cost them as a people...and then look what happened.

I have 2 part time jobs where I get taxed to hell esp when doing overtime along with doing a course, that’s 2 more jobs than most of the migrants that have come here

I'd be really interested to see the stats that show that most migrants to the UK don't have jobs. Can you share those with me Benandhollysmum? Thanks

Not going to sit and argue with you

How many you taking in to feed and clothe, when you answer that then sit and argue
Because we both no the answer to that don’t we?

Well, as they say, you can’t argue with stupid.

Are you god op?

Didn’t think you would answer, funny that resorts to namecalling like the typical Lily Allenesque liberal

Don’t tell others what to do when you won’t do them yourself,
Halfwits everywhere

The irony 🤦‍♀️

Oh for fucks sake I've read it all now

We're only inviting right wingers over - correct?

What if any of those highly - skilled Venezuelans are leftists, but sneak in?

The Brit who won a field medal for mathematics this year was a Kurdish refugee with farming parents and poor English.
There are two separate issues here, taking our fair share of refugees and then working out if we want a high skilled or more mass entry immigration. They aren't the same issues.

You’re not capable of a reasonable debate, and I’m not sure you have the intelligence to cope with a balanced argument, so there really is no point.

yorkshireyummummy

“Karma decreed”???

Are you for real??

Half, if not most or all of the reasons these countries are “third world” or “war zones” is because they’ve been decimated through colonialism or bombed by Western countries. Like, your know, YOURS.

What irony? You’ve refused to answer but dictating what everyone should do..

Ask home grown uni students who have no jobs or working in supermarkets what their thoughts on getting jobs they should rightly get but given to everyone else.
Go on student life it’s teaming with, nobody will employ me..

Let’s ignore our own because another country is in trouble.

If that’s ironic to bad

I agree. We are struggling to recruit people with the correct skill set at my work. We would be happy to employ suitably qualified staff wherever they may be from.

2 people go for an interview.

Both have the same skills and qualifications.

You think a migrant person automatically gets the job

Why?

And that results in ‘our students’ working in supermarkets?

I didn’t want to say, but I found your ‘halfwit’ comment ironic because you don’t have a good grasp on spelling and grammar. That is ironic since a) you are calling people halfwits and b) surely as you’re not a foreign migrant, your English should be tip-top.

This thread really does show the true colours of many of the posters here!

"I’m sick to death of helping other countries." !!!

Are you actually serious?!

No more immigrants, the UK is FULL. Does Brexit not teach anyone anything. Enough already.

doesn't Venezuela need their highly skilled workers?