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To think we might not be going on holiday next April after all?

569 replies

Hoardernomore · 04/10/2018 13:09

We stupidly booked a holiday to France for about a fortnight after Brexit. I didn’t even consider brexit at the time, I just considered ds’s Easter holidays. It’s to Disneyland Paris and we’ve been waiting to take the children for ages. We’ve only paid the deposit on the hotel (stopping in Disneyland hotel so expensive if we end up not being able to go) but have paid for the flights.

We are idiots.

Would we be best to cut our losses and not pay the balance on the hotel and book for another time?

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Ta1kinpeace · 04/10/2018 18:32

buteo
Have you found a policy that will cover for Brexit no deal?

Gersemi · 04/10/2018 18:33

Only an unbelievable degree of political idiocy would lead to a situation where flights are grounded. I wouldn't worry about it too much

At the time when Article 50 was triggered, we would have said that only an unbelievable degree of political idiocy would leave us in the situation where we have no deal in place and no idea what is going to happen with less than 6 months to go. Never discount the potential for politicians to be idiots.

Havabiscuit · 04/10/2018 18:34

I am crossing my fingers that if nothing is decided the EU might at least have some handover time to allow movement

I think we will have to ask the EU toe tend Art 50. That will be politically difficult climbdown considering all the bullshit insults that have been trotted out during the conference.

Havabiscuit · 04/10/2018 18:34

To extend

BlueJava · 04/10/2018 18:38

Check your travel insurance covers this. Useful article from the Independent: www.independent.co.uk/money/spend-save/brexit-holiday-insurance-customs-travel-immigration-europe-uk-a8454261.html

Gersemi · 04/10/2018 18:41

Anyway it's all conjecture. A deal will be struck.

What's the basis for that prediction, Blithering, given that we haven't managed it over the last three years?

ShinyElena · 04/10/2018 18:41

Affordable all inclusive packages can be a bit restrictive.
We need to fly from a regional airport, otherwise it is too much hassle (and too much annual leave taken up), so the availability is limited. And sometimes we just want a city break in Vienna, not a pool break.

SheGotBetteDavisEyes · 04/10/2018 18:45

A deal will be struck

Oh right then. A half-arsed, panic-stricken one? A 'we've got no fucking choice then' one?

It's not likely to be anything else really is it?

Ta1kinpeace · 04/10/2018 18:47

BetteDavis
Scarily enough, the more the UK blinks, the better the deal will be for the population,
as it will be nearer to the EEA than the "singapore" that JRM and his shitty chums want

ForalltheSaints · 04/10/2018 18:50

I think you will be able to travel, but be prepared for longer passport queues, even if a deal is struck. Border agency staff will I expect be thin on the ground.

BlitheringIdiots · 04/10/2018 18:53

What will be will be. I will either go away, get a refund or lose the £4K and not go away. Either way it's totally out of my hands and worrying about it isn't going to change anything

OrdinarySnowflake · 04/10/2018 19:11

If a last minute deal, or an extention (or even a 2nd ref and 'remain' vote maybe!) is sorted, then there might be some cheap last minute bargains to be had next Easter holidays - a lot of people are putting off booking just in case.

1tisILeClerc · 04/10/2018 19:21

The EU have already ruled out an 'extension.
IF the UK had been working seriously and been seen to be making a decent go of it then there could have been some leniency so had it been literally down to a few weeks worth of crossing the Ts and dotting the 'i' s then it was possible. The UK has come up with NO serious proposals since A50 was triggered but they have been rude and dismissive.
The Checkers was a non starter as it DELIBERATELY went against several of the EU red lines, that the UK helped put in place originally. On the lines that you can't have a bucket with a hole in it.

Firesidegl0w · 04/10/2018 19:25

Year 2000 the world was going to end. Switzerland and numerous other countries operate normally without being part of the EU. I predict that business will continue as normal, perhaps with a bit more paper work. The French will still want to export champagne, cheese, cars etc and UK will still import and export and so will other countries. UK is supposed to be one of the top countries, including the Commonwealth in the World. Why all the doom and gloom ? I believe that some people don't like change ? This is a good opportunity to make some positive changes

cucumbergin · 04/10/2018 19:30

Can the technically illiterate please stop using the Millenium Bug as a "oooh you're all making soo much fuss" example? It is actually the opposite, thank you.

OrdinarySnowflake · 04/10/2018 19:43

Firesidegl0w - do you really think that the millenium bug jsut went away and sorted itself out? Do you not realise that millions were spent by banks, airports, airlines, train companies, hospitals and many other small insitutions to fix the bug before it hit?

The reason it didn't happen, was because people took the threat seriously and planned for it. We aren't planning for this to be smooth, no deal means no smooth transition to the new systems.

I don't think the world will end, but until some arragements are made so that British planes and crew will get certified, there won't be flights. Not world ending, but annoying if you planned to holiday next Easter.

No deal doesn't mean no deal for ever more - but it does mean a difficult transition time. And 'difficult' does mean no flights, and problems with things that need to be imported until new treaties can be drawn up. (Which takes time)

France will still want to sell us champagne, they might just have to wait a few months to do it. Not the end of the world for France, hardly a problem for us to wait a bit. But not a smooth transition.

Long run I'm sure we'll get something sorted. Just might mean some people (like the OP) have a shit time trying to travel until it is, and if you need something imported, you might need to wait a bit to get it.

Helmetbymidnight · 04/10/2018 19:46

Oh ordinary, I think you just don’t like change, brexiteers are so bold and so innovative. Britain is better than all the rest. Think nice thoughts and we’ll be Great Britain again.

Hmm
Buteo · 04/10/2018 19:47

Ta1kinpeace nope, that’s why I said outwith Brexit.

John Lewis used to (maybe still does?) cover against volcanic ash, as long as there were no advisories in force at the time the policy was taken out.

Hoardernomore · 04/10/2018 19:49

I think we will cancel. It is my stupid fault for not considering brexit. I got really excited and didn’t even remember it was happening around that time. Better to lose a few hundred pounds than thousands. Sad

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Whojimawhatsit · 04/10/2018 19:51

I work in travel. Nobody has even discussed it as a worry. Bookings go on as normal. It’s a non issue as far as works concerned.

1tisILeClerc · 04/10/2018 20:01

Whojima
I would strongly suggest you or your employer starts to read up on the situation. Something serious WILL happen on or around March 29th next year. Heathrow have rejigged finances to allow for up to 2 months 'shutdown'. One of the car manufacturers is considering a week or two shutdown at £60 Million a DAY. Knowingly sold holidays/travel without reliable insurance and all that surrounds it is downright irresponsible and foolish. At least KNOW your facts, don't assume anything. Hint, even the government don't know the outcome yet and they are supposedly in charge.

Ta1kinpeace · 04/10/2018 20:14

@Whojimawhatsit
How does your company explain Heathrow putting aside enough money to shut for two months?

BBCK · 04/10/2018 20:16

Are you for real? No difference in travel, we are not in Schenghen

socksortights · 04/10/2018 20:17

If this is going to ruin our country, why is the government going ahead? Bollocks to 'Brexit means brexit' etc. Most people voted on something they did not understand (me included). The government should take responsibility for that and perhaps piss a few people off who still want to leave and pull the plug on it.

SheGotBetteDavisEyes · 04/10/2018 20:19

I work in travel. Nobody has even discussed it as a worry. It’s a non issue as far as works concerned

How very reassuring.

Let's hope that someone 'in travel' is thinking about it, eh?