To ask how to hide a topic

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How can i hide a topic? I kniw how to hide threads but would like tohide a topic?

Thanks

The OP literally just asked for advice on how to hide a topic. That's it. People have come on and shown exactly why so many want to hide it. It's relentless but kind of comical!

Rudezebra. Thats another for your bingo game. There are women disagreeing so it must be TRA imposters 😂

And cute. There were turtles and a bat too.

But my feminism includes transwomen and always will.

It's not unreasonable to ask why you believe that, and even challenge it when it affects the rights of others. You do surely perceive that there is at the very least a conflict of rights here?

post passive aggressive images of baby animals

Whereas posting passive aggressive recipes is a-ok? Jesus, the hypocrisy is amazing. I've genuinely never met anyone with such of a "do as I say, not as I do" way of thinking as mumsnet feminists.

Let's all laugh at the silly feminists trying to protect women's rights and post passive aggressive images of baby animals!

Um... a good number of us here are feminists. As in, like, in real life; actual do good things for women feminists. Credentials and everything.

We just don't recognise FWR as full of feminists. And they don't recognise us. And that's okay, we've given up on it, we're forging a new home for ourselves on MN - and it has adorable small creatures! What's wrong with that?

Have you ever noticed how many posters on FWR report that they never even considered themselves a feminist until they started reading trans threads, and then overnight they're surprised to learn they're actually radical feminists and the only ones with any clue how to best stand up for women's rights? Haven't you noticed that? I would say the large majority of posters on FWR these days on recently discovered they were "feminists"; as in, the minute they discovered "feminism" meant being a part of some virtuous movement to stand up for women by mocking teenagers and being told how clever they are by the equally recently converted.

Forgive me if I'm confident I won't be missing out on some great discussion on how to protect women's rights by avoiding FWR. I think I'll be okay, you know, talking to the women in my life who have been interested and engaged in feminism, well, all our lives actually. I reckon I'll keep on top of it, thanks.

Not hypocrisy - just holding up a mirror.

But my feminism includes transwomen and always will

And it's your right to say that and personally if I feel strongly about something, I will argue about it anywhere and with anyone.

I don't get the problem some people have with expressing an opinion and not having everyone in the room say 'oh yes yes yes, I agree'. If it's your opinion, then voice it. If people disagree, so what? What exactly is the issue with that, as long as they're not insulting you? And if they are insulting you, just ignore, report and move on.

Rudezebra - exactly, I thought of the recipes too, unbelievable hypocrisy really!

@Ereshkigal yes I can, and I'd be happy to discuss the concerns I have with self-ID (which includes ensuring born women aren't disadvantaged in areas like sport and that it isn't abused by criminals and autogynophiles) but I will never change my opinion that transwomen are women and therefore I am not welcome or comfortable on the FWR board. And that's what we're talking about on this thread.

Oh ffs. See! This is why we want to hide FWR. How dare you accuse me of being a TRA just because I don’t agree absolutely and without question with the views on fucking self-ID.

Passive aggressive animal photos 😂 I’ve heard it all now.

You wouldn't be welcome on a pro-trans board either, you do realise that?

@ThisIsTheFirstStep Think I'm ever going to change your mind? Or anyone else on the FWR board? Nope. Of course not. So what's the point of putting myself through the pain of encountering what is, to me, offensive bigotry, just to shout into the ether and be met by a wall of people calling me a man, a TRA or a handmaiden?

And I very much doubt you'd feel comfortable.

Have you ever noticed how many posters on FWR report that they never even considered themselves a feminist until they started reading trans threads, and then overnight they're surprised to learn they're actually radical feminists and the only ones with any clue how to best stand up for women's rights

No, I have not noticed that, but we all tend to look for evidence to back up our opinions, so it probably stands out to you. I personally am not some kind of snob about these things ("I was a feminist FIRST so I KNOW BEST"). One of the biggest feminists I know is my mother in law who would never even consider applying that label to herself.

You seem to think you are the queen of the feminists or something because you've been there longer than others. Dunno. I'm 38 now, first read Dworkin when I was 16 or 17, wouldn't say I am massively activist, but I am a teacher and I defend women's rights in my classroom when I can. I didn't realise that there was some kind of checklist I had to complete before I could say I was a feminist.

Jaysus, I go off to get some sweet, sweet sleep and this is what I come back to! It's like Rebel Night at the Rock (before they barred Ponsonby), all over again. And in a more internetty, less dodgy pub kind of way.

If you smear or insult me or other feminist women on MN I will respond.
That's very kind Erish, I've been able to handle myself so far, but if anyone smears or insults me and I'm unable to take it, I'll give you a shout. I'm off to get a cuppa and read this properly. Perhaps some of my earlier questions were answered.

You have no justification for why you believe MTF trans people are women. Of course people are going to challenge that. The onus is on the one who makes the extraordinary claim. Your belief is quasi-religious.

Teddy - add it to the bingo card.
Tick off TRA, patiently wait with your dabber for MRA, you're a man, and handmaiden.
Don't forget to shout house when you fill your card, it saves your sanity against being constantly misgendered if you don't agree lol

peach I doubt you'd change my mind and I'm sorry that you see standing up for women's rights as bigotry. I also don't like when people use insulting words on there, but if you don't like the atmosphere, just don't go there. I mean, I'm not going to moan about 4chan existing, I'm just not going to go there, you know? Didn't mn start a liberal feminist board on here but no one ever uses it? How can you complain about it then? Start threads in there if you don't want to face 'bigotry'.

Guys, you're all feeding the trolls here....

As I said Verbeena, we can all make goady bingo card posts. Genderist bingo is particularly droll.

Gosh, what a lot of fuss some people make about nothing.

If you don't like it, just hide it.

The whole point of this thread was that people wanted to know how to hide it without making a fuss! And then on they came telling us why we're wrong for wanting to do that...

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@Ereshkigal Sorry but that's bollocks. Plenty of trans people and allies have concerns about self ID. Of course there are extremists who disagree with those concerns and might even consider them to be transphobic. That's fine. But fundamentally we agree that transwomen are women, transmen are men and people have the right to define and live their own gender identity. The FWR board does not believe that and never will.

No, they objected to the smears being made against other Mumsnet posters who post on FWR.

Sorry but that's bollocks

What is?