To think there should be an approval process to allow parents to HE?

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Children's education matters, it is incredibly important and affects the rest of their life. I think it is fine for parents to Home Educate, but I think there should be an approval process before parents can HE. This will check the parents are actually capable of doing this.

"And there ARE services for families"
Please tell me how to access these - I had no support from the school and no suggestion that any help was available

If there was a "transition to Home Ed" team whose aim was to catch those for whom Home Ed was being pushed on the family by the school - and make the school stick to legal processes - this might make schools think again too*

Ha ha. Ds’s school got rid of all the SENCO dept because there were no children who needed their help.

There were other children in the school who needed extra input.

After a year all the children who might have needed help had left.

Funnily enough the following year OFSTED inspected and the headmaster left and the once outstanding school was put in special measures. One of the reasons was there was no SENCO dept.

6Spring
Our SENCO organised a TAF (team around the family) and referred us to a Family Support Worker.

6SpringCats if there are any services I never found them and I HE’d for the best part of 8 years.

School said they couldn’t help him because mainstream school was not for him.
Apparently he had the educational ability of a 1 year old.

2 weeks later we had whizzed through maths and I was teaching him GCSE maths at 8.

The issue was he couldn’t read.

drspouse we had a taf as well. Sadly it didn't mean that the required support was implemented to enable our son to be at school.

Wtf, how can your school need to no senco?

oliversmumsarmy lots of kids similar to your are forced out, yet they want to regulate HE?

I think we are lucky in our SENCO but our LEA has an appalling reputation for SEN and funding in gender.

Oops *general

I'm torn. I have a lovely friend with a lovely HE DD who has done a super job, another lovely friend with a lovely DD who is giving her some really amazing experiences, but then I know another family where the children have been really badly let down their Mum (who had control of the HE) didn't really understand what was required for them to do what they wanted to do. I also know a family where I have serious concerns for the welfare of the HE child and it worries me that the child is not going to be in regular contact with any other adults to keep an eye on them. It does make me think there needs to be some kind of regulation. Education is the child's right, parents shouldn't be able to screw it up to suit themselves.

If you have serious concerns, report them.

The PP who said that people HE because they give up on trying to get their school refuser into school, they frequently give up because the schools do not help the children properly.

I HE my DD. I made the decision after a long time of her being bullied. The final straw was 3 adults and 6 children laying in wait for her down the road from the school. I pulled her out in year 8. Her peers have now gone to high school and she is still HE, as I was not going to send her to school with the same nasty people she was in middle school with (we live in an area in the UK with a middle school system).

I did accept the optional LEA visit, as I feel I have nothing to hide. The lady who came stressed that the school she had left had no concerns about my ability to HE. She was very happy with the provision I had made for my DDs education and I was pleased that she pointed me towards a 14-16 unit my DD can access to do GCSEs. We are doing curriculum maths and English work, and biology. We also enjoy historical TV programmes. We do a lot of sewing and other crafts.

I have a reasonable level of education, but do not see myself as DD's teacher, it is more that I facilitate her learning.

I do think the majority of people do not need to be inspected by the LEA as such, but I do know of two girls who are being 'home educated' and I really do not think there is much education as such going on.

The LEA do have the option to push the point if they have genuine concerns though, so I think this is already covered.

Oh, and my DD goes to 9 organised activities a week on top of what we do at home. She mixes well with people of all ages at these activities. School is the one place and time we are expected to mix with people purely on the basis we are the same age as them. At least at college, the people on the same course will at least have that in common.

Tbh I’m phoning sendiass tomorrow so that says all that is possible about our current school experience.

I think the child's right to a a decent education comes before any other considerations and I definitely think there should be proper registration and checks.

I think there needs to be more monitoring and registration. Majority do a great job but it leaves many very vulnerable. If I think of how many children in school are subject to neglect/abuse/domestic violence/get into bother on the internet or community or groomed, and this is picked up by people trained to look out for signs, it makes me worry who is looking out for kids who are essentially hidden?

Children have a right to education and to be safe from abuse. Schools are failing at this in the UK massively. Children are being raped, Sexually abused, stabbed, bullied emotionally and physically etc. People are jumping on board saying homeschooling needs to be monitored but are completely ignoring that the real issues happen in schools. I know several people within my friend group who's kids are neglected by their schools/teachers.

"I think the child's right to a a decent education comes before any other considerations"

It would be lovely if local authorities felt that way about what they provide. We had to spend thousands to force them to provide it. All the HE children I know are in that situation because the local authority doesn't provide it.

I think the child's right to a a decent education comes before any other considerations

So do I that is why I HE.

Instead of monitoring HE why not monitor schools who are too busy following the NC and don't seem to realise there are a proportion of children who are functionally illiterate and are receiving little or no help.

This leaves those unable to join in the lessons vulnerable to not being able to progress

I think HE has become a hugely attractive prospect for families that can afford for one parent to stay at home, or can somehow juggle their work patterns round it.

The internet, God love it, opens up a classroom environment..SKYPE tutoring, YouTube, all the resources and guides you need, advice and direction to local groups for social meet ups and field trips etc.

I think it is going to become more popular as schools fail to provide adequate resources and support due to budget cuts. Poor teaching is prevalent as people are being bribed to take up a career they have no interest in , and bullying goes unchecked as schools pretend they don't have a problem.

The point is is that a parent doesn't need a teaching qualification or a certain educational standard to HE due to the resources available, so a monitoring scheme is probably not worth the huge amount of infrastructure and money needed to make it work.

Please stop blaming budget cuts on schools not doing their job in teaching all children.

The issue is the National Curriculum is not designed to aid anyone who can't keep up.

It is like going to a school in China without any knowledge of mandarin and being expected to do the work and homework whilst someone summons you out of class for 10 minutes twice per week to teach you to read mandarin.

Then when you cannot do the homework you are made to stay in every break and lunch time to do the homework but you just sit there staring at a blank sheet of paper.

That it is what life is like for a lot of children with dyslexia or other SENs.

Then people start shouting about how HEders should be regulated.

Maybe start looking at the schools and the reasons behind why people HE.

Indeed. Naturally most children start reading much later than they do in primary school, and attainment is no different later down the line. But kids have to read early in school to be able to access the rest of the curriculum with the minimal available adult help

Loving the Mandarin analogy sets it out perfectly