To think there should be an approval process to allow parents to HE?

[abacucat]

Children's education matters, it is incredibly important and affects the rest of their life. I think it is fine for parents to Home Educate, but I think there should be an approval process before parents can HE. This will check the parents are actually capable of doing this.

[6SpringCats]

After dereg but just a letter with some useful info leaflets. They have never tried to visit or slightly additional info.
SS wanted a bit more (Wwe get regular referrals as a result of my MH issues) but once they saw ds get english and maths gcses they arent bothered any more

[HateIsNotGood]

It's different for all of us - I wouldn't have believed what happened to DS myself before it actually happened.

The mildest, nicest 17 year old now - I'm very proud of him.

Good Luck to everyone who has to face it..

[6SpringCats]

We were contacyedc

[taratill]

Zzzzzz I dont doubt it is possible however I’m in an unbelievable battle at the moment because there is no school to meet need and I do not wish to electively home Ed

[taratill]

HatelsNotGood thank you so much for considering me in your post. However my child is not at the point of exclusion. He has never misbehaved at school . He just doesn't cope and tries to kill himself. He is never going to meet the exclusion threshold. (unbelievable that there is one : ()

[cantkeepawayforever]

he LA usually contacts the new home educator - I haven't heard of anyone in the home ed. community who hasn't received contact and enquiries, written or otherwise, as to their plans for their educational provision.

I HEd DS after deregistering him, and at no point during our period of HE did I have any contact whatever with the LA. Not a word. Not a confirmation, not a pack, not an enquiry. Absolute silence.

The positives for a register from my point of view is the failure on gargantuan scale if our disabled children might be more visible.

That seems to me by far the most useful - and nationally important - reasons for registration.

[HateIsNotGood]

taratill - afore ye go to the SEN Boards - the general baseline for an LEA to consider SS education is 2 permanent exclusions.

This is a hard concept for a parent to get their head around because instinctively parents want to keep their child included - I know, because it is a state of mind I have inhabited.

After the first permanent exclusion, which I fought and lost, no school for months, the PRU and then PT placement, where despite very supportive Teachers, TAs and Senco - the HT would exclude; I withdrew DS (age 7) and HS.

Visited by LEA to check and all ok - looking back I did produce a pretty good curriculum for ds, but really HS wasn't something I wanted to do, I felt his 'socialization' was being compromised.

Diagnosis - ASD - after 18months of Assessment.

New County - 2 years later - No School, then a bad placement which led to the inevitable exclusion. PRU.

I remember I was in the bath (relaxing) when the LEA called to ask if I wanted DS's exclusion struck from his records. I was very happy to say No. He had achieved 2 Permanent Exclusions!! A very strange circumstance to be pleased about. DS aged nearly 9.

Then in he went to an Indie SS as a Day Boy and after a few years I pulled the plug on that and we returned to nearly where we left from. No School, then PRU then mainstream Free Academy.

This year DS passed enough GCSEs and is now at College studying a Level 3 Btec.

Just trying to give hope to taratill and others.

[Tomorrowillbeachicken]

They need ASD places tbh and in our borough they also need places for high ability ASD and SEN children.

[Tomorrowillbeachicken]

oliversmumsarmy we have two dx and the last one is strangely elusive. After seeing that team we will go for an ehcp, that we will struggle to get as he is high achieving.

[Tomorrowillbeachicken]

I equally think schools need more checks, especially when it comes to educating SEN children, as do the Local authorities. People want to desperately protect the status quo as that is all that they’ve ever known and are all too happy to attack HE.

[wheatymin]

Genuine questions are fine. Not nit-picking, it comes across as belligerence, rightly or wrongly. Yes I am a HEer and what you describe isn’t my experience

It's very unusual for an LA, on receiving notification that a child has been degistered, not to contact for further information. A quick look in the national and local HE groups will tell you that if you won't take my word for it. Also people asking how long before they will be contacted and what to expect etc etc

[niccyb]

The education act states that the parents are responsible for the child’s education not the state.
I find it ironic how a parent can be fined for taking a child out of school for an educational holiday despite the responsibility lying with them according to the education act and yet if a parent deregistered a child from education, they can join back at any time.
Effectively, if parent wanted, they can deregister them from the schools and remove them from school in the June and then put them back in school in September.

I think it definitely should be more regulated, And more checks made simply to ensure the welfare of the child and that they are being educated

[wheatymin]

Who requires the local authority to do what?

The school is required to notify the LA, by law. The LA usually contacts the new home educator - I haven't heard of anyone in the home ed. community who hasn't received contact and enquiries, written or otherwise, as to their plans for their educational provision. The more laissex faire LAs might 'let' you send an ed. phil alone.

I'm not sure why you're nit-picking. Do I have to put inverted commas around everything Are you a home educator? I mixed you up with a long-time home educator from here (similar name) who you're clearly not.

[Oliversmumsarmy]

Sorry missed out what I wanted to say and that is I have been after a dyslexia/dysgraphia diagnosis since ds was 7 and I have yet to get one.

[Oliversmumsarmy]

Tomorrowillbeachicken

Ds is at college and just got a distinction in his first exam there.

This is a child that his primary school said needed to go to the school for children who had severe learning difficulties that would affect them for the rest of their life.

I think there is a thinking by those that don't HE that a HE child has to be taught the "curriculum". Maths English History Science etc but actually as long as your child is being educated in something. There is no restrictions.

You could spend all day everyday teaching your child to be a concert pianist and they would be receiving an education.

[Basecamp65]

When you deregister a child from school they inform the L.A.

The L.A. should then take reasonable steps to ensure that an appropriate full time education is being provided. I also do not know anyone who has not been contacted

They also have to take action if they suspect any child is not recieving an adequate education.

That is the current law.

People who have never sent their children to school do not have to inform anyone but L.A. can still take action if they believe a child is not recieving an education.

Many people are referred by friends and neighbours when they have concerns.

The reason HE people take exception to greater monitoring is the fact all the provision required exists currently. And works at least as well as schools - and arguable better - at providing education and safeguarding all the children they include. So neither work perfectly all the time and some children unfortunately fall through the net but in slightly greater proportion amongst the schooled population

[bumbleymummy]

I disagree that children naturally learn to read later and have to be force fed phonics to learn earlier. To be perfectly honest, I think the current phonics system makes things a lot more complicated than they need to be and I was glad my children could already read when they went to school so they didn’t have to use that method.