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‘Energy and persistence conquer all things’ - even vile orange ones. Trump thread con.

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TheClaws · 29/09/2018 02:44

From the august Benjamin Franklin. This thread is no. 84.

Old thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3369248-Not-knowing-when-the-Dawn-will-come-I-open-every-Door-Trump-No-95

‘Energy and persistence conquer all things’ - even vile orange ones. Trump thread con.
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Lweji · 04/10/2018 09:16

It's tricky because Democrats shouldn't be seen to influence the FBI's investigation one way or another.

ohmymimi · 04/10/2018 09:17

Informative on last night's developments:
[The 11th Hour with Brian Williams] Day 622: FBI ends Kavanaugh probe without talking to dozens of witnesses
rss.art19.com/episodes/1ba07e49-0223-4d90-b3b8-47713b9a12dc.mp3 via @PodcastAddict

ohmymimi · 04/10/2018 09:28

I see Sasse said all the right words, in the right order, on the Senate floor yesterday. That is his schtick, talky no walky.

'Ben Sasse drops a bombshell on the debate over Brett Kavanaugh's nomination to the Supreme Court'
uk.businessinsider.com/republican-ben-sasse-on-brett-kavanaugh-trump-should-nominate-someone-else-2018-10?r=US&IR=T

'Ben Sasse is no friend to the resistance: He’s Trump with extra sanctimony'
Nebraska senator wants to be seen as a principled Trump foe — but on issues of substance, they’re peas in a pod
www.salon.com/2018/01/03/ben-sasse-is-no-friend-to-the-resistance-hes-trump-with-extra-sanctimony/

ohmymimi · 04/10/2018 09:39

That was the Repugnant's calculation on Kav. with their base. And they have both outcomes covered - confirmed/lauding of magnificent triumph;not confirmed/howling with
grievance.
'Poll: Amid Kavanaugh Confirmation Battle, Democratic Enthusiasm Edge Evaporates'
www.npr.org/2018/10/03/654015874/poll-amid-kavanaugh-confirmation-battle-democratic-enthusiasm-edge-evaporates?utm_campaign=storyshare&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social

Gumpendorf · 04/10/2018 10:28

This made me shiver .. because it's true Angry

Kellyanne Conway, while talking about the bombshell New York Times report on Trump's finances: "Haven't they learned that the president always gets the last laugh?"

https://twitter.com/kaitlancollins/status/1047496413192577024

ohmymimi · 04/10/2018 10:37

Jill's Pins'
'Sweep Under The Rug'
www.jillwinebanks.com/jills-pins-content/2018/10/2/sweep-under-the-rug

Gumpendorf · 04/10/2018 10:38

This week's cover of @TIME: Using words and phrases from Christine Blasey Ford's testimony, artist John Mavroudis (@zenpopart) "recreated her likeness by drawing each letter by hand." twitter.com/brianstelter/status/1047701561550557185/photo/1

twitter.com/brianstelter/status/1047701561550557185

‘Energy and persistence conquer all things’ - even vile orange ones. Trump thread con.
ohmymimi · 04/10/2018 10:46

'Why the White House Might Rush to Swear Kavanaugh In Before New Allegations Can Emerge
It’s exactly what happened with Clarence Thomas in 1991.'
www.motherjones.com/politics/2018/10/why-the-white-house-might-rush-to-swear-kavanaugh-in-before-new-allegations-can-emerge/

ohmymimi · 04/10/2018 10:48

Until he doesn't, Gump.
He who laughs last laughs loudest.

ohmymimi · 04/10/2018 11:06

While this is a damning thread, it seems that the Repugly/WH narrow take will be that nothing has been found to substantiate Dr Ford's assault claim. They will ignore/ dismiss out of hand the extensive, blatant perjury, extreme political partisanship, and his obvious lack of judicial temperament. SCOTUS will be undermined and compromised for years. THEY DO NOT CARE. But, history will, and McConnell, who regards this as his crowning legacy, does not have the history shackled as he does the Senate (for now):
Seth Abramson
@SethAbramson
STATUS OF BRETT KAVANAUGH PERJURIES
Perjury ("Renate Alumnius"): CONFIRMED
Perjury ("Devil's Triangle"): CONFIRMED
Perjury ("FFFF"): CONFIRMED
Perjury ("boofing"): CONFIRMED
Perjury ("Bart"): CONFIRMED
Perjury (no blackouts): CONFIRMED
Perjury (no groping): CONFIRMED
mobile.twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/1047698391722065920

Lweji · 04/10/2018 11:10

"Haven't they learned that the president always gets the last laugh?"

Maybe...
But other presidents in other countries also thought the same...

ohmymimi · 04/10/2018 11:27

Don Lemon, with the Cooper interview with Kav. Yale freshman year roomie. Not interviewed by FBI because it does not suit the WH/Repuglies he/she said tale.

Gumpendorf · 04/10/2018 12:32

The report on the (sham) background probe into Kavanaugh has arrived at the Senate and is currently being kept in a vault. Senators will look at it this AM, with Republicans and Democrats taking turns reviewing it for one hour at a time (e.g., GOP 8-9AM; Dems 9-10; GOP 10-11 ...)

https://twitter.com/RVAwonk/status/1047811030649397248

Lweji and mimi Thanks

ohmymimi · 04/10/2018 13:17

This has not lightened my mood:
Republican Rep. Kevin Cramer has a double digit lead over Democratic Sen. Heidi Heitkamp in the North Dakota poll, with 53 percent of likely voters picking the Republican and 41 percent supporting the Democrat. Last month, Cramer led Heitkamp by 4 points in a survey of the race.
'Senate polls: GOP leads in North Dakota, 4 other races close'
www.politico.com/story/2018/10/03/senate-midterms-polls-829127

PerkingFaintly · 04/10/2018 13:34

Back in Vlad-world, the Dutch have crapped from on high on those Russian spies they expelled in April. Counter-espionage isn't usually made this public!Shock

Russia's GRU 'targeted chemical weapons watchdog OPCW'
www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-45746837

The four suspects identified by Dutch officials had diplomatic passports and included two IT experts and two support agents, officials said.

They hired a car and parked it in the car park of the Marriot hotel in The Hague, which is next to the OPCW office, to hack into the OPCW's wifi network, Major General Onno Eichelsheim from the Dutch MIVD intelligence service said.
[...]
They were named by the MIVD as hackers Alexei Morenetz and Yevgeny Serebriakov, and support agents Oleg Sotnikov and Alexei Minin.

Officials said they were from the GRU's Unit 26165, which has also been known as APT 28.
[...]
He [Peter Wilson] said the hackers were planning to travel on to the OPCW-certified laboratory in Spiez near Berne in Switzerland, where the novichok nerve agent used in March's attack on Sergei Skripal and his daughter in the British city of Salisbury was identified.

At the time the Russian operation was disrupted, the OPCW was investigating the Skripal case as well as an alleged chemical attack in April on the Syrian town of Douma near Damascus, the MIVD said. Russia has accused the UK of staging the incident.
[...]
What was on their computer?
A laptop seized from the suspects was found to have been used in Brazil, Switzerland and Malaysia.

In Malaysia it was used to target the investigation into the downing of Malaysia Airlines flight MH-17 over rebel-held territory in eastern Ukraine in 2014, killing all 298 people on board.

The cyber operation targeted Malaysia's attorney general's office and Malaysian police, Ambassador Wilson said.

Gumpendorf · 04/10/2018 14:01

NEWS: Manchin has gone from undecided on Kavanaugh to "totally undecided"

Must credit

https://twitter.com/burgessev/status/1047587061727985664

The polls are tightening mimi and the Kavanaugh debate has been a godsend to the Repugs in firing up their supporters. People who don't like Trump want a conservative Court though why defeats me

Heitkamp and Manchin will vote for Kavanaugh. If they don't they will definitely lose their seats. It's no win for the Dems Angry

ohmymimi · 04/10/2018 15:46

Thanks for the flowers, GumpSmile

ohmymimi · 04/10/2018 15:59

Yes, Gump, the polls today have swept me from feeling very slightly bullish, tinged with a smidge of optimism, to a rather hollow despair as dread of the long haul ahead - with Mar 29th looking on the horizon, too. I feel guilty too, as this a rather vicarious experience that pales against the depth anxiety and, in some, plain fear, for huge numbers the US.

ohmymimi · 04/10/2018 16:00

and dread

ohmymimi · 04/10/2018 16:02

looming Sorry, tired after putting away supermarket haul!

lionheart · 04/10/2018 16:45

Oh. Sad

ohmymimi · 04/10/2018 16:47

Another piece on the Russians cyber attack. The last
www.politico.com/story/2018/10/04/russia-cyberattacks-justice-department-charges-869435

ohmymimi · 04/10/2018 16:51

Another piece on the Russians cyber attack. This extract from the last para could almost have been written about the way this WH operates:
" ....... to pursue its interests through illegal influence and disinformation operations aimed at muddying or altering perceptions of the truth,”

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