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Girl sat in blood soaked clothes after being told she couldnt go to the toilet and would require a £15 toilet pass.

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HelenaDove · 28/09/2018 18:25

metro.co.uk/2018/09/27/girl-sat-in-blood-soaked-clothes-after-teacher-said-she-couldnt-go-to-the-toilet-7984731/

FFS! What is wrong with some people And a £15 toilet pass. Misogyny and sex discrimination.

Two staff members also asked her what action the doctor was going to take to lighten her doctors flow.

Im absolutely furious reading this Im sorry if there already is a thread. I couldnt see one.

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Awwlookatmybabyspider · 28/09/2018 21:11

Angry. I won't comment I'll be here all night

Gersemi · 28/09/2018 21:21

I don't see the point of demanding a doctor's letter. The doctor didn't examine her at the time so isn't in a position to give a medical view on whether she did or did not have a heavy period. All s/he can do is to tell the school that she has periods that may come on suddenly, and that reportedly they are very heavy. All of which the school knows already.

noblegiraffe · 28/09/2018 21:22

Helena surprised you’ve never seen them, although the threads don’t last long!

Anyone with an eye for teacher threads will know about them, they’ve been at it for years.

I’d suggest that posters don’t share personal experiences.

gylly · 28/09/2018 21:28

This has made me so angry that I have no words. I don't have daughters but I wouldn't want this teacher teaching my sons either when they clearly have no commons sense or morals.

jcsp · 28/09/2018 21:36

I’d have been ashamed to have worked in that school. I’d have complained to those upstairs on her, and others’ , behalf’s.

I probably have said, to those wanting the toilet, come back and ask me in 10 minutes - particularly if they asked just after coming in from break. *. But the response /look returned from saying that then tells you whether to say ‘ok then off you go.’

It’s not rocket science. And I was only a WW teacher!

  • there are other issues about school toilets, for some they are a unpleasant and somewhat threatening environment. Some pupils feel uncomfortable going there at break time and prefer to go in lesson time when it’ll be quieter/empty.

Some schools have experimented with the design/architecture of toilets to make them less threatening environments.

Graphista · 28/09/2018 21:37

"If this had been my daughter I'd have been ripping the head teacher a new one and demanding the teacher be educated about periods" me too!

When dd was at school I had to get a Drs letter (at own expense, think it was £20) as her school weren't letting her go to the loo occasionally during lessons. She has a disability which means she can't "hold it" as well as others, plus her mobility is affected. It should never have got to that stage. And even the letter wasn't enough! It took me threatening to make a formal complaint on the basis of disability discrimination!

Gp was not impressed and a bit abrupt with me initially assuming I'd not already had a word with the school - I'd had SEVERAL! Then it was the school she was unhappy with and that came across in the tone of the letter.

Jamiefraserskilt · 28/09/2018 21:41

On the one hand, kids are encouraged to keep hydrated but on the other, they have to hold their pee for 2 hours knowing that there will be a queue at break. Teachers know who the disruptors are and who is genuine. I disagree with the poster that says teenage boys can hold it, some can't as their hormones affect bladder control but they don't want to mention it to mum/gp as it is embarrassing.
This story is all kinds of wrong.. those teachers who indicated the mother should, essentially, feed her child hormones to lighten her flow on her first period need their heads checking. Wtf happened to common sense?!

BlatheringWuther · 28/09/2018 21:41

Err... I agree this is awful as it stands, but is the Metro the only source for this?

brighteyeowl17 · 28/09/2018 21:49

Misleading heading. Toilet pass doesn’t cost £15. Doctors certificate does.

Passmethecrisps · 28/09/2018 21:50

It honestly is quite simple. “Mrs crisps can I please go to the toilet?”

“Hmm. Would you be able to wait five minutes until I finish this demo?”

Either eyes widen and you get a “no. I need to go now” in which case off they rush. Or they forget in five minutes because they didn’t need. I have done that then reminded the child only to be told by the child that they don’t actually need anyway.

And maybe I am a soft touch. Maybe I teach a bunch of weirdos but sometimes they need a bit of a break. A stretch of the legs and some fresh air can actually help. I’m not checking bowel or bladder contents!

If they ask regularly I remember and I warn when they ask that they may not get next time. That helps them regulate.

And I know this sounds extraordinary but I have been known to pop to the loo for a quick pee when I have older classes in and generally speaking the Sky doesn’t cave in.

Vintagegoth · 28/09/2018 21:52

As someone who aged 12 could barely make it through a single lesson without flooding, I think this is outrageous. I hope my daughters' school are more understanding when their time comes.

SunnySkiesSleepsintheMorning · 28/09/2018 22:03

I went to quite a strict school with a firm policy on going to the toilet during the lessons. Basically, no you cannot. However, teachers knew when someone was clearly needing to go. They aren’t stupid, they figure it out.

This is disgraceful that it happened. Poor girl.

HelenaDove · 28/09/2018 23:31

Blathering heres another source. i did see a third source and as soon as i find that i shall post it here. Hmm

www.hastingsobserver.co.uk/news/education/mum-s-fury-as-school-refuses-to-let-pupil-use-toilet-during-her-period-1-8648547

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HelenaDove · 29/09/2018 00:25

"Could she have not dealt with it at break"

Yeah cos period flow works to suit other peoples timetables.

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dementedpixie · 29/09/2018 01:07

I'm sure that girl really concentrated on her lesson while dying for a pee for 2 hours! You sound like a pure cow of a teacher

yumyumpoppycat · 29/09/2018 01:09

Kirsty she is 11 at a new secondary school and it is her first period.

HelenaDove · 29/09/2018 01:15

kirsty i used to drink nothing all day when i was at school so i wouldnt need the loo

I now have an overactive bladder. People can be left with lifelong health issues because of things like this.

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HelenaDove · 29/09/2018 01:16

i think a lawsuit is what is needed Its the only thing that will put a stop to this bullshit.

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dementedpixie · 29/09/2018 01:17

If she pestered you for 2 hours then she needed it.

HelenaDove · 29/09/2018 01:18

kirsty you have contradicted yourself You said in an earlier post you will not let students out in class time.

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OlennasWimple · 29/09/2018 01:18

at the age of 35, having been dealing with periods for over 20 years, I had to leave an important meeting to deal with an unexpectedly heavy period.

Anyone who thinks that 11 yo girls should have period management down pat are either a) male; or b) very fortunate