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Girl sat in blood soaked clothes after being told she couldnt go to the toilet and would require a £15 toilet pass.

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HelenaDove · 28/09/2018 18:25

metro.co.uk/2018/09/27/girl-sat-in-blood-soaked-clothes-after-teacher-said-she-couldnt-go-to-the-toilet-7984731/

FFS! What is wrong with some people And a £15 toilet pass. Misogyny and sex discrimination.

Two staff members also asked her what action the doctor was going to take to lighten her doctors flow.

Im absolutely furious reading this Im sorry if there already is a thread. I couldnt see one.

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CoolGirlsNeverGetAngry · 28/09/2018 20:13

Fuck, this is hideous.
I also bled onto chairs, bus seats, you name it. I still feel paranoid now even after nearly 30years of menstruation.

BabySharkDooDooDooDoo · 28/09/2018 20:14

Thats disgusting and blatant discrimination

Agustarella · 28/09/2018 20:14

@Sweetpouttheashes Absolutely, time for a dirty protest!

Norma27 · 28/09/2018 20:17

I have taught in primary and agree with asking children if they can wait. You can tell after a few seconds tho if the child does need to go to the toilet, and obviously with girls teachers should be sensitive to the fact a girl might suddenly need the toilets desperately.
My daughter started her periods a week after turning 11 but luckily during the summer holidays. Her friend at school then got her first period a few weeks into term just after their swimming lesson. I would rip the teachers at that school a new bloody arsehole if they had done that to my daughter. It is so difficult at that age adjusting to what is happening without being humiliated by not being allowed to go to the toilet and deal with it.

mostdays · 28/09/2018 20:19

Too many schools have become so nastily authoritarian. That poor kid.

Glitterbubbles · 28/09/2018 20:19

How awful for the girl, and what a waste of NHS resources!

OrchidInTheSun · 28/09/2018 20:21

I can really remember the hot shame of feeling my period leaking when I was at school and going to ask to go to the loo (and thankfully it not being visible unless I did manspreading.

This is bloody appalling. If I had a daughter at this school I think I'd keep her off.

RowenaDedalus · 28/09/2018 20:21

@Ravenesque

How could any woman ask "what is the doctor going to do to reduce the flow?" I might understand if a man said that, I'd still think he was a bit period ignorant, but at least he'd have the excuse of never ever having had a period so not fully understanding them. This is gobsmacking.

I don’t know if it’s gobsmacking is it? I was prescribed tranexamic acid at 12 and it made my life a lot better! No more flooding during lessons.

zen1 · 28/09/2018 20:21

Absolutely outrageous - why the fuck should she need a 'toilet pass'. Teacher should be pulled up over his.

BewareOfDragons · 28/09/2018 20:22

I despair of how horribly we treat young girls and women.

zen1 · 28/09/2018 20:22

*this

blueskiesandforests · 28/09/2018 20:27

Some secondary schools are insanely Draconian and misogynistic, not just to pupils. I was teaching when pregnant with dc1. I'd told my head of department about my pregnancy early due to intense morning sickness in weeks 6-16. I was being sick a lot. Mainly having to pull over on the drive to and from school to vomit, and vomitting due to strong smells - I had to abandon supermarket trollies more than once and run out and vomit. I was still struggling into work because pregnancy is not an illness, and the children deserve consistency etc.

I was teaching a well behaved top set year 10 first lesson and realised I was going to vomit imminently. I had no time to arrange cover and ran out, down the corridor and vomitted in the girl's loo.

My mixed sex class were impeccably behaved and sypathetic, asked how I was and got me a chair and were model pupils the rest of the lesson. My male head of department threatened me with disciplinary action if I abandoned a class again and said I should have held it in or vomitted in the waste paper bin, in front of 30 teenagers

mathanxiety · 28/09/2018 20:28

Macosie, it's Kaiden-Jai and Tiphanie-Mai is it?

The trouble makers?

What a truly horrible post. Nasty, classist, and mean spirited.

My DCs attend a very mixed intake high school in the US, with a student body of about 3,500.

Hall passes are given out at the discretion of the teacher. Believe it or not, the loos are not heaving with miscreants all day every day.

It is a very well run school. Respect flows from students to teachers and teachers to students. Students are trusted even if their names are Kaiden or Typhanie.

Some posters here would find it astonishing.

DRE56322 · 28/09/2018 20:31

£15 for a toilet pass? Forget that noise. I am pretty sure it is illegal under some kind of act for my employer to refuse me access to a toilet. Why is it different at a school? Kids should be able to go to the toilet when needed (within reason- obviously three times a lesson every lesson is a different scenario) without having to justify it with a reason- I don't need to announce to my manager in front of all my coworkers that I need to leave my desk because of period/UTI/uncontrollable bowels, so why should our kids?

ReanimatedSGB · 28/09/2018 20:34

I wonder if the teacher in question was young and or an NQT, and had been so browbeaten about' YOU MUST OBEY AND ENFORCE RULES' that s/he was incapable of exercising any judgement or common sense. Because most teachers do know when a kid is messing about and when a kid needs to go.

secretsciurusvulgaris · 28/09/2018 20:35

Don’t engage with it. The same poster popped up with a goody one-liner on one of the Ocado threads.

Absolutely disgraceful, that poor girl.

Holdingonbarely · 28/09/2018 20:37

I would have thought as a teacher it’s blindingly obvious who is trying it on and then who isn’t. Like a teacher said upthrwad, they let a boy out? But she’ll keep an eye on him if he does it again.
Clearly this teacher is just a really shit teacher.

PhilomenaButterfly · 28/09/2018 20:37

That's really lovely of you Rowena. I hope DD has a teacher like you when she starts.

ADisrespectfulWoman · 28/09/2018 20:40

Well said, mathanxiety.

MacosieAsunter
Your post is vile.

AnotherPidgey · 28/09/2018 20:54

A lot of schools (secondary) have no toilet policies during lesson time policies. Fortunately I haven't worked in one that physically restricts access, but discouraging access is normal.

Sadly many students do try it on at the cost of genuine need. You can usually spot those looking awkward and in need and I've given out a fair few of my own spare pads in my time.

I was mid-lesson when my first one started. Gym, in gym knickers no less Blush Mine were irregular so I did have to go and check if the cramps of doom were coming. It can be difficult to balance pupils' needs for dignity (I remember my own days well) against strict policy (and some schools treat their staff like disobedient teenagers if you do ignore their diktats). The reality is that when pupil 1 has gone to the toilet, an epidemic of full bladders apparently breaks out Hmm

KatherinaMinola · 28/09/2018 21:03

This is what that MP was talking about, wasn't it? Hidden costs of periods. But I think even she'd be gobsmacked at having to pay £15 for the privilege of using the toilet.

Surely everyone knows that most young teens have irregular periods and that they can be unusually heavy too, while their hormones adjust. And if they don't know then they shouldn't be anywhere near a secondary school.

noblegiraffe · 28/09/2018 21:03

There’s a troll who regularly posts threads like these trying to solicit stories like those that are being shared here.

Even though this is not one of those threads, those posting these stories should be aware that someone out there is probably delighted at this thread in a very grim way.

RainbowsArePretty · 28/09/2018 21:04

How awful to not be trusted to go to the toilet! No child should have to beg/debate by explaining they gave a period or upset stomach etc.

The school should be ashamed

HolesinTheSoles · 28/09/2018 21:07

AnotherPidgey

I can understand staff using their judgement when kids are clearly trying it on in terms of loo breaks but how can a school have a policy of not allowing a kid to use the loo? What if it's a genuine emergency (upset tummy, first period, sudden UTI etc)? What do they actually expect the kid to do?

HelenaDove · 28/09/2018 21:08

Bloody hell noble I had no idea!!!

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