Couple charged with assault for trying to buy water in Rochdale Tesco

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Obviously don’t know the full facts, but the photos
Show the police being pretty heavy handed.

They look Muslim, so presume don’t drink alcohol, they have regularly buy the water from other branches of Tesco.
This behaviour by the police looks like the sort of treatment meted out by racist officers towards African Americans in the US.

I am disgusted by the thuggish behaviour of the police and I hope Mr. Hussain succeeds in his complaint to the PCC.

Around 2009 it was suggested that the educational standards should be raised and changed for entering the Police, but it didn't happen.

Yes it did.

Everyone I speak to is dissatisfied, disillusioned and distrustful with the police force of today.

Not me. Any dealings that I've had with the police - as a witness to a crime and as a victim of 2 crimes - they have been excellent. Very professional, prompt in their response, kind and supportive.

I would not want to do their job. They have to be all things to all men and in this case this man was being utterly ridiculous. He ramped the situation up and up until the only course of action left was to arrest him. He could have prevented that at any point - simply by leaving when he was asked.

He is the author of his own demise.

Can’t believe the suggestion that the shop staff were only in danger of being bored. They’re not robots, and after years I never found the abuse you can get over refusing sales or catching label swappers “boring”. If the people in question called over police officers and then kicked off at them enough to get arrested, I doubt they were very nice to the person who was serving them.

It didn't take long for Steven Lawrence and Hillsborough to be brought up. Events of nearly 30 years ago used as a desperate last resort.

Funny how NHS staff aren't all responsible for the actions of Beverley Allit, and Harold Shipman.

Teachers? They just have sex with their pupils right? Definitely still at it because someone was at it in the early 90s.

Soldiers? Murderers the lot of them. I've seen plenty of newspaper articles about what they get upto in the 70s in Northern Ireland

Nursery workers? Paedophiles clearly.

Nope only the Police are judged by actions of people in the job 30 years prior, by people with an axe to grind.

Any chance of some proof that the police are not investigating gang rape and arson yet 2much?

So you would rather they wasted their time on these idiots than protecting children like poppi

What I'd like is for people like the man and his wife in the video to learn how to behave in public so that the police didn't have to attend to deal with them.

Many, many drains on police time that, if they didn't exist, would free them up to deal with the crimes that you are talking about.

If people decided not to get shit faced drunk and start fights, or drive like lunatics, or burgle people's houses or sell drugs...

Where is your line? What would you like police to ignore?

In this incident a)the man calked the police himself and b)what were the Tesco staff meant to do? He was being more and more abusive and disruptive. They asked him to leave and he wouldn't. What should they have done? Asked all the customers and staff to leave so he could stand in an empty shop ranting to himself? Tell us how you would deal with this situation?

Now we have a situation where genuine crimes are being committed with genuine victims and not being dealt with because a cop thinks it's better to punch than ignore

Any chance of some proof that the police are not investigating gang rape and arson?

@tillytop I see one of your mate @2muchtrouble posts got pulled! Aggressive shit isn't it (can't differentiate between he:she)?

Where is your line? What would you like police to ignore?

I imagine just like Tilly, any crimes that they've been accused of. Everything that they feel is important however, must be dealt with exactly how they say, when they say so. Otherwise the pigs are just corrupt, because you know, Steven Lawrence and Hillsborough.

@RudeZebra proof, you want proof from the two idiots on this thread that rape etc isn't being investigated!

It'll be a cold day in hell before you'll get that!

The two of them (if they are two different idiots and I have my suspicions!) are clearly vile, mad people. With a huge chip on their shoulders! They talk crap like £58 per hour salaries, then just ignore and are unable to justify the statements!

@2muchtrouble doesn't know the difference between where and wear! Asks have we heard of Sgt Gee when it's Sgt Jee.... just plain thick!

You on the other hand bring value and safety to our world, thank you!

Being an idiot however is not a crime

Being abusive is.

if no crime has been committed then there is no job for the police

Great news from 2much! That'll free up loads of officers to deal with drug users in a stairwell. You should really pass on this info to all the chief constables.

Missing people.

Mental health act detentions.

Road traffic collisions.

Sudden deaths.

Fear for Welfare checks.

No longer a job for the police.

And if the police had just ignored that male when he had called them over, I'm sure you would have had something to say then, probably accused them of racism for ignoring him, because I have a sneaking suspicion that you have a tinsy winsy grudge.

P.s. Any chance of some proof that the police are not investigating gang rape and arson yet? I mean if you don't have it just say. It's not like you're just making it up.

Rudezebra "bravest store detective*etc. You are genuinely very funny, getting to like you. In answer, it was company policy to call the police every time someone was caught with stolen goods.

Police didn't have to deal with them,if no crime has been committed then there is no job for the police

If they weren't committing a crime. But they were asked to leave private property and they didn't, were being abusive to staff and were escalating it. Plus, he himself calked the police over. Should the police have refused him then?

Being an idiot however is not a crime,I have to deal with idiots but I don't do it with my fists,in the worse case scenario I ignore them

So you're at work. Someone starts shouting at you, being aggressive and refuses to leave. You just ignore them then? You aren't worried that they may become violent towards yourself or colleagues or anyone else around? You're quite happy to sit there, what all day, with someone ranting at you? Ok then.

Annoying as they maybe it's not very good value for money is it? Especially when you put into context of murder,gang rape,arson,poppi Worthington

It's mad that these officers were dealing with this you're right. They should have invented a time machine, travelled back in time, to an area covered by another force, some 105 miles away and dealt with the tragic death of a child (that you're using to score points. Classy)

Fucking corrupt bastards.

Where was this gang rape and arson? (I'm assuming it's closer to Rochdale)

Police didn't have to deal with them

Initially, no - except that the guy clearly called the police over himself. I wonder if, had they refused, he'd have complained about that too?

Would "ignoring a muslim while on duty" be worth a prosecution (imaginary or otherwise) do you think? Naturally we'd be invited to assume them guilty without proof, and who knows what compensation would be payable?

Rudezebra "bravest store detectiveetc. You are genuinely very funny, getting to like you.grin In answer, it was company policy to call the police every time someone was caught with stolen goods.*

So why did you not just stop them before they stole and turned them out? You could have then avoided calling the "useless lumps" and they could spend more time to deal with the groomers and paedophiles you're so desperate for them to catch.

As an aside, most of us would rather catch sex offenders than deal with some junkies stealing cheese and bacon, but over zealous store detectives people keep calling it in. What can you do eh?