To think that the idea that the Croydon Cat killer is actually a Fox is a load of b*ll**cks

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^^just that really. I'm not buying this fox theory. Mutilated cats left on owners doorsteps...don't think even the most intelligent foxes could manage that.

AIBU to feel that either a) the police no longer have resources to spend on this or b) it is a tactic used to try and lull the perpetrator into a false sense of security?

Sorry anita, I know this is a subject close to your heart but I'm afraid my feeling is that SNARL are cranks with an axe to grind and I'll take anything they claim with a large handful of salt.

But is there anything official re the poisoned meat?

I just can't get my head round bothering to go all the way to St Leonards to get your kicks from killing a rabbit when you could just grab another cat in Croydon.
To be fair, if you were considering the possibility that he exists (which I know you aren't), it isn't beyond the realms of imagination that he might be in St Leonards for a work related reason rather than having gone there specifically to execute another animal and gets a kick out of doing what he does when he's away as well as at home. I am absolutely theorising and responding to your point, not saying that's what's happening.

Fair enough Dolores, but then going back to the same house the next night kicking in the cat flap and popping a collar under a flowerpot? And where is he draining the rabbit of its blood, in his B and B?

And if it is, say, a travelling salesman doing all the cases from Manchester to the Isle of Wight, then he's bloody lucky he's not been seen by CCTV in any of those places. Or been scratched by any of the four hundred cats or bitten by a fox at any point.

Or had someone who knows him put two and two together and say, hey, my creepy BIL travels a lot of work and he was in St Leonards last week and Manchester the week before, and he lives in Croydon....

@SNARLLondon have tweeted, "We’ve been alerted to a twitter account claiming to be Boudicca. Please note this is not our Boudicca and we’re looking into it as a priority." It seems the anti-Muslim account isn't really her.

Fair enough Dolores, but then going back to the same house the next night kicking in the cat flap and popping a collar under a flowerpot? And where is he draining the rabbit of its blood, in his B and B? Crikey, I don't know anything about blood draining! But I don't find it that odd that he'd be in St Leonards for two nights and might make a return visit to a house where he'd eviscerated a pet. //////////////// (please imagine a new paragraph here, return isn't working.) The version I heard, however, was that the rabbit owner had put a flower pot over the liver (to prevent scavenging) pending a visit from the police and when she lifted it, lo, no liver but a collar in its place. If all that were true, I think it would really be a bit of a stretch to think that a fox could manage that, but as many people have pointed out, one simply doesn't know if these stories are true.

And incidentally I'm really glad to see the post from Valanice about the Boudicca Twitter account. A friend of mine (who is very real!) has met the SNARL team and does a lot of leafleting with them, and utterly believes in them, and while I honestly don't know whether it's foxes in sockses or the work of a madman, I would hate to think that she'd been taken in by someone with such vile politics. (I'd also be quite surprised because she's not stupid, and would normally pick up on something like that.)

There’s a video somewhere suggesting it’s not just one person doing these. (It was made by Snarl I think.) Fox.... my arse.

The Twitter account isn’t the same Boudicca Rising’s, so at least the cat-murderer theory isn’t an elaborate ruse to swing the cat-loving public into hard right islamophobia! I’m relieved!

I don't really get how Twitter works but they're claiming there are two Boudicca Risings out there, and the second non-SNARL one happens to have a cat pic for her profile? // Dolores there are about eighteen different versions of what the alleged killer does on this thread alone, it's hard to keep track!

I think there are quite a few Boudicca Risings on Twitter (it's the Twitter address, which starts with a @, that needs to be unique, your name doesn't need to be). Cat profile pictures are all over Facebook and Twitter, so it's not too much of a leap to imagine that a separate Boudicca Rising might have a cat profile picture (or be mischief-making). // Only to be expected that the stories have proliferated and got lost in translation, I suppose!

Possible I suppose. I didn't think there would be many people with such an unusual handle but I guess they may all / both have got it from the same place. I'm still skeptical though

And if it is, say, a travelling salesman doing all the cases from Manchester to the Isle of Wight, then he's bloody lucky he's not been seen by CCTV in any of those places.

Well I believe he may have been because at one time the police said they were looking for someone with links to the Gravesend area-how would they know this otherwise?

I think it's a bit of both tbh. The fox/car theory is the most obvious for some of them, and vets etc have confirmed this. Some cats might have dragged themselves home before dying; that's what my bf's cat did when it was run over.

There was a spate of cat-killings where I lived when I was younger. (Hampshire) They'd be hung up after tho so definitely human.

^And if it is, say, a travelling salesman doing all the cases from Manchester to the Isle of Wight, then he's bloody lucky he's not been seen by CCTV in any of those places.

Well I believe he may have been because at one time the police said they were looking for someone with links to the Gravesend area-how would they know this otherwise?^

It was a line of enquiry. One that didn't amount to anything.

FYI Another local vets has posted - disagreeing with the official police stance. It is fascinating to see how this will play out.

Kent police have also not closed their current investigation (into one case, however, not into a collection of cases). I agree, Bagel, very interesting to see how it plays out.

On a wholly unrelated note, I wonder who the experts are that SNARL are paying for private autopsies? They don't seem to have given any names.

I find it interesting that SNARL have no interest in registering as a charity.

Disappointed that the police had time to waste on this.

They’d be better off registering as a charity. No tax. Can still pay themselves whatever they like

Interestingly yet another vet practice who examined animals during this case has come forward...

So that is two vet practices that say they have examined bodies and found evidence consistent with human intervention.

I’m sure some of the cases were fox mailing on dead kitty, but it’s very hard to believe all cases were.