House guests who ‘don’t eat carbohydrate’

[Littlemessymiss]

The second time a particular house guest has brought a girlfriend who does not to eat ‘carbohydrates’ in the form of starch/ gluten. There is no chrohns/ coeliac. There is a limit to how many roasted cauliflowers and sweet potatos I can stomach.
We would not have evolved as a species if there was an absence of carb!
WIBU to educate these Americans of the joy of a nice rib of beef with roasties and Yorkshire’s?

OK, maybe water with a very pure form of fat.

Please do this OP.

We survived and thrived for hundreds of thousands of years as a species before we figured out how to make bread.

We survived yes. Quite difficult to know whether we thrived, how healthy we we're, life expectancy etc.

There's not really that much flour in homemade Yorkshire pud. Not that carby really.
I could give up all carbs but pasta. You would have to pry pasta from my cold dead hands.

To blame the current obesity epidemic on carbs is just very silly.

Or are you saying my parents generation, and their parents, and those before them all of whom would probably appear slightly underweight by today's standards, didn't exist on bread, bread and more bread with some potatoes thrown in and a roast dinner followed by something like apple pie on a Sunday?

Obesity is caused by being sedentary, snacking, large portions and drinking a hell of a lot more alcohol than we used to.

Are they on Keto ?

I lost a lot of weight in the week I did this diet. It’s not a good idea to do it long term though.

There are lots of recipes on Pinterest if you’re Interested.

I tried low carbing and it made me feel awful, I don’t eat much gluten as it bloats me but I can’t cut carbs out completely, simple things like swapping what’s bread for brown, white rice for brown and sweet potato instead of normal potato is enough for me. I do ththink no we need carbs as a part of our diet, I beleive you can eat carbs in moderation and not be obese (I’m a size 10 carb eater).

OP, I would just cook what you normally do and she can eat what she likes, if she doesn’t want to eat carbs fair enough, doesn’t mean everyone else has to go without. It’s her diet choice.

Actually, there's some evidence (IIRC) that switching to agriculture, with a bread-based diet, increased illnesses. Previous hunter-gatherers seemed healthier.
But... they had to depend on unreliable resources, which didn't allow population growth to the same extent that agricultural communities did.

White Bread contains virtually no Fibre, which is what we need.
Interesting. What we need? For what? Do we need nothing else?

I was on a very low carb diet for some time (and lots LOADS of weight!) and ate less than 20g of carbohydrates a day. It is very difficult to get down to that level and you need to be aware of the carbs in everything (e.g. gravy, sauces,vegetables, fruit). When I went for a meal with my Mum or other family members I just asked for meat, eggs or cheese and leafy vegetables, they could have whatever else they wanted with that. They were aware of why I needed to lose weight and were supportive. If your guests are just not eating the obvious carbs i.e. bread, potatoes, rice, pasta you have got it easy. Just cook normal food and give them extra veg. But avoid the sauces/gravy if you can.

I feel terrible if i eat too much bread/pasta/potatoes.

I certainly wouldn't describe myself as "no carb" but I would feel bloated and crampy if served a bowl of pasta as a main meal.

I'm always quite surprised when adults eat that sort of thing, I see it as teenage/kid food.

There seems to be a lot of confusion over carbs on here. It's virtually impossible to cut out carbs, broccoli, cucumber, eggs, all have carbs for example.

No one eats no carbs. No one cuts carbs out completely, It's low carb. Not no carb, And it's low carb in comparison to our other food group intakes ie high fat, medium protein, low carb as a percentage of total daily intake.

We don't need heavy carbs in our meals. We don't need pasta, rice, broad, potatoes. We can be incredibly healthy without these foods. And still eat good quality carbs, which occur naturally in most foods.

We eat a lot of chilli, bolognaise etc but have it full of veg/beans and serve with rocket. Really nice when you get used to it.

Or you can buy the pre-spiralised butternut squash noodles / courgetti but i prefer it just with salad.

Pretty sure people were missing my tone earlier.

Yes fruit is good for you, but it is sugar, fructose IS fruit sugar, so don't be telling me you never eat sugar as you chow down on dates and feed your children raisins

ditto The No Gluten Lot...that does not = coeliac, just those who equate a slice of Mighty White to crack as they butter their wholemeal toast with banana and berate everyone on the evils of sugar and gluten

I bundle these people in with the Veggies that eat chicken and fish, and there are plenty of those.

So ask the woman what she will eat and go from there.

I try to avoid carbohydrates but i wouldn't expect someone to cook differently for me. Just give them what you're having minus the carbs.

This reminds me of a recent thread with posters puffed up with pride because they don't give their little darlings "crap, sugary" breakfast cereals. No, they give them fruit yoghurt and orange juice because there's no sugar in those, is there?

Blimey the lack of food knowledge is quite shocking.

Who says they don't eat sugar and then eat fruit? If they do this then they don't understand food.

And of course sugary cereals are way way more unhealthy than fruit or yoghurt, and a small glass of fresh orange. Sugar in moderation is fine. A bowl of coco pops or some such crap is no where near as healthy as giving a kid a bowl of natural yoghurt with some fresh berries and a small glass of fresh orange.

They were talking fruit yoghurt not yoghurt and fresh fruit. I just looked at a peach yoghurt in my fridge and it's 19% sugar.

ah Ok blue lady,,,I misread.

@Littlemessymiss

"WIBU to educate these Americans of the joy of a nice rib of beef with roasties and Yorkshire’s?"

Oh another snarky MN who looks down on Americans, how basic. You sound like a lovely host!

"Don't eat carbohydrate" is nonsensical. I couldn't take an adult seriously who uttered such garbage. Have they ever thought about the syllables they're saying? It's just carbon, hydrogen, and oxygen (usually in a 1.2.1 ratio).

If they mean they prefer complex carbs to simple carbs then great, so do I. But when you're a guest you gracefully accept what you're given, short of allergies, intolerances and health needs.

I don't understand the snarkyness about dietary preferences. You don't have to have chrohns/ coeliac to justify eating low carb, it's a choice surely?

I eat a very low carb diet purely because I tried it after reading about Michael Moseley's blood sugar diet and it completely reversed my diabetes - so pretty amazing results imo. So whenever I eat out I bypass the carbs, and don't always feel the need to fill everybody in on my reasons, as my medical history is my business. It's not as if it causes anybody huge difficulty - it usually just means I leave the potato or pasta and eat a bit extra veg.

someone with a food allergy need just say so, and if it is complex like the sufferer up thread, give some ideas for food or bring their own. I would hate anyone to suffer because they felt compelled to eat the wrong.food.t

pasta is not kid food.

@FridayThirteenth I've just been diagnosed with the same thing a few weeks ago. It's been ROUGH – and confusing! On the outside there seemed to be no rhyme nor reason to what set me off; it's only now that I'm learning the science behind it and what's 'safe' for me to eat and what's not. I haven't had to explain it to someone I'm visiting before, but I did bring my own lunch to my partner's parents' home to try and avoid the confusion / drama / judgement!

I'm on a low FODMAP exclusion diet for the next 8 weeks before I can start testing and reintroducing, and the kind of automatic cynicism that seems to sneak out from people on topics like this makes me feel quite hesitant and sad about eating anywhere other than my house!

to you from a fellow malabsorber!