House guests who ‘don’t eat carbohydrate’

[Littlemessymiss]

The second time a particular house guest has brought a girlfriend who does not to eat ‘carbohydrates’ in the form of starch/ gluten. There is no chrohns/ coeliac. There is a limit to how many roasted cauliflowers and sweet potatos I can stomach.
We would not have evolved as a species if there was an absence of carb!
WIBU to educate these Americans of the joy of a nice rib of beef with roasties and Yorkshire’s?

Sorry just read the start of this thread but not fully through it so this might be completely off track. It's reminded me of a colleague at work who was going carb and dairy free because he was "gluten and lactose intolerant" however ....I repeatedly found him snacking on buttered toast during the break.
I have genuine sympathy for those that do suffer (BIL, and DC) but this clip makes me laugh each time I see it. So dead pan...

It seems to me that the whole ‘ I can’t eat ......’ movement has gone where good manners will not tread.

A host will ask if there is anything a guest cannot eat for health reasons or that they really cannot stomach like liver or sprouts. He or she would not serve pork if a guest hated it, for example.

However, beyond this, it is the duty of host and guest not to make a childish fuss about aspects of the meal for the sake of friendship, harmony and the peace and enjoyment of other guests. Invitees should eat what they like and leave what they don’t like alone without complaining or expecting to be treated specially.

I recently spent a weekend with a sports and wholefood fanatic who gave us sparse and Spartan fare ( and overcooked and dried out the edible bits too). Politeness dictated that we smiled and ate up. We did what our parents told us and toyed with food on the plate so it looked as if we were eating some of it.

I read that some restaurants are in serious financial difficulties because of the number of allergies they have to cater for in any one evening. The whole ‘picky eating’ thing has got out of control. It is perfectly possible to eat away from home without making a fuss. I am allergic to shellfish and intolerant of garlic and onions but I would not dream of spoiling the convenience and pleasure of others by making a fuss.

I read that some restaurants are in serious financial difficulties because of the number of allergies they have to cater for in any one evening. The whole ‘picky eating’ thing has got out of control.

WHAT???

That is hardly the reason for business failure. Mostly restaurants go under because of lack of demand due to a number of factors.

I'm coeliac and I find it really hard to eat out as most truly either don't care or don't understand and make me ill any way due to ignorance. Obviously it's my own choice to take the risk with someone else's food prep and I have been known to take my own food places to save this.

One example was I ordered off the gluten free menu, nachos as a treat not a normal dish choice for me but I didn't fancy my usual meat/fish and veg and it came with a cheese sauce as soon as I put it in my mouth I knew it was made with wheat flour it's a very distinctive itching/tingling/tight feeling I get as a first symptom. I asked the staff to check with the kitchen I was apologetic and polite and said I'd really not want this to happen to anyone else and they came back promising it was not 🤨. I was ill for a week but symptoms from one glutening last for months with me. Like friggin hair loss in huge bald patches I then have to try and cover up.

Any way can you point me to all these restaurant that genuinely cater for us "picky eaters" 🙄 I'd like to give them my money so they don't go out of business. I'd love to feel like someone actually cares and doesn't just treat me as an inconvenience or liar and feed me shite anyway.

I have to control carbs because I’m diabetic. It’s actually very easily done. Salad, veg, cheese, meat or substitute,

Whatever the family have but modified so chilli but no rice, Bolognese no spaghetti, stir fry no noodles.

Is this the Keto diet? My brothers on it, he just eats meat and avocado constantly. While he has lost weight and he doesn't have a big appetite anymore I reckon all the cholesterol is going to give him a heart attack. Just give them the beef rib and extra green veggies. Not too difficult. Also if it is the Keto be prepared if you offer them coffee they put butter in it. He calls it 'bulletproof ' coffee - I call it nasty.

Fat in diet does not in the majority of people affect their cholesterol levels negatively. But carbohydrate consumption does.

This chap is very easy to listen to and what he says is backed up by evidence/studies/science...

m.youtube.com/watch?v=NUY_SDhxf4k

The evidence is out there and I get that this is difficult to process after years of fat=bad, as I felt that way too. However the science is telling us that a diets high in starchy carbohydrates is not great. All carbohydrates are converted into glucose and then used as energy or stored as fat. Western society is becoming fatter from this diet and obesity is the leading cause of type 2 diabetes.

As many above have said people who are low carb high fat are very easy house guests on the whole. Catering for them is no biggie, when we have guests I buying pasta, bread, rice and cook it and add to the table...job done.

Veg is carbohydrate though.... what else do you think it could be made of 🤔

fibre are carbs
fibre is pretty important for our wellbeing.

some health issues are incompatible with high protein (gout) or high fat (liver, gall issues) diets.

eat food. not a lot. mostly plants.
-best for us and for the environment

Fibre is indigestible carbs. It doesn’t raise your blood sugar. It slows the rate of absorption from the digestible carbs in whatever food. Which is why Apple (whole) = ok
Apple (cut, peeled, juiced, puréed, cooked- ie fibre broken down or removed) = not so good.

absolutely waver
but that's something some low/no carb people don't consider.

Who says?!

We probably consider it more than carb eaters! I don’t eat lots of carby foods but I still get sufficient fibre, A lot of low carb followers count net carbs anyway (so deduct fibre grams from their carb totals)

Red and Waver low carb doesn't mean no carb, I easily my five a day and more but I chose vegetables that are low in carbohydrates compared to starch carbs in bread, pasta, rice etc. These vegetables are full of fibre so no still getting fibre but it is important to not the evidence is weak for the current recommendations.

LCHF does not not mean high protein and in fact for many suffers a good way to improve NAFLD and gout which is a related condition.

I think some of the bad press for Low Carb came from the myth that it is high protein and not much else.

A good low carb protein is one that is high in green leafy vegetables, berries, full fat dairy, good oils - olive oil etc, nuts, eggs, seeds and unprocessed meat and fish.

Happy to put up links to evidence for this but all is readily available on the www.

Ignore me Waver was having a multi task fail

S’ok idefix, after all these ‘experts’ in this thread telling me I’m wrong I’m beginning to doubt my low carb credentials anyway!!!

Waver i can understand people uncertainty I think current guidelines have a huge catch up to do I think the difficulty is that so many of the guidelines are made in collaboration with the food industry.

For diabetes it's a lottery whether you are in an area that offers the Desmond hclf or the Xpert programme which offers a choice including LCHF. I have never seen anyone put their diabetes into remission and stop medication whilst having a hclf diet but I have with LCHF.

But you are right when faced with such waves of disapproval it is easy for the self-doubt to get a twitched.

I wonder if, when fat became the enemy (what was it? 60’s? 70’s? 80’s) people were as resistant to change as they are currently with sugar? People would literally not bat an eyelid if a friend gave up eating fat now, we have whole supermarket aisles dedicated to fat free products, it is a massive industry. Also, I’m sure one of the reasons I feel so much better since giving up all the sugar, flour, potato, rice etc is just how much less processed my food is- because there is simply nothing really processed that doesn’t contain all these things. Anything advertised as being sugar free is artificially sweetened, and not just ‘less sweet’. So my overall diet is largely whole foods, home cooked, fresh ingredients. How that is faddy I don’t know! I wonder if people had the same discussions when they dared say they were going ‘low fat’?

I think that's very true. I know from the Low Carb Bootcamps that often people report how much better they're eating, and how much more scratch cooking they're doing!