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House guests who ‘don’t eat carbohydrate’

293 replies

Littlemessymiss · 20/09/2018 10:33

The second time a particular house guest has brought a girlfriend who does not to eat ‘carbohydrates’ in the form of starch/ gluten. There is no chrohns/ coeliac. There is a limit to how many roasted cauliflowers and sweet potatos I can stomach.
We would not have evolved as a species if there was an absence of carb!
WIBU to educate these Americans of the joy of a nice rib of beef with roasties and Yorkshire’s?

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EllenMP · 21/09/2018 21:49

You have my sympathy. My dad tries to avoid carbs and I pretty much ignore that when he visits. I'm cooking for a large household and everyone has to deal. It's easy for people to advise you to just make extra veg, but that's extra work, and you may want to make a one pot meal with carbs like a pasta bake. I would make whatever you like and serve it with salad. She can go heavy on that at the meal and light on the pasta bake. Also, if she is a foodie you can task her with salad prep so she can help without getting in the way. It's different if someone has a real food intolerance, but it sounds like she doesnt. If she can digest carbs I think you can serve them.

IcedPurple · 21/09/2018 22:10

funny how mainly overweight people say that

That's your level of argumentation? Wow you must be a master of sophisticated repartee.

no it hasn't. it's calorie in vs calorie out.

I'm not going to waste my time trying to convince you. If you want to believe in nonsense which has been proved wrong, in study after study, that's your problem.

MadCow999 · 21/09/2018 22:21

YABALU I always ask my guests if there’s anything they can’t eat at the same time saying, bring what you normally eat for breakfast and anything else you like that I may not have. That way I get the contents of their fridge for all to share. At meal times I place everything on the table in dishes bar the main which I serve up asking “how much would you like “

Genevieva · 21/09/2018 22:39

Some people on this thread have no sense of humour. I didn't say anything to my fellow guest - I thought it to myself. We all had a nice evening, but her picky approach to food that she had chosen from the menu was rude. And, lets face it, scallops are a treat. Who can't serious find room for an extra scallop or two? Especially if they have room for pudding afterwards. My point remains though, that it is polite to eat what you are given unless there is a medical reason why it will do you harm.

BIWI · 21/09/2018 23:13

Carbs do not make you fat. Excess calories make you fat. Carbs contain a lot of calories gram for gram, but carbs do not make you fat. This is silly internet spread rubbish by misinformed people. But for some reason because someone said it on the internet it must be true

So much ignorance.

manicmij · 22/09/2018 00:29

The theory used to be that pale was our original diet and that is what we should stick too. The carb debate goes on and on, IMO it's the carbs in junk type food, biscuits, white pasta, rice and of course the dreaded sugar that we didn't eat all those years ago. We did eat plants and very recently there was a discovery we did eat grains. Also, many experts say that too much red meat can contribute to causing bowel cancer. For me everything in moderation, I even have an ice cream now and again. I am doomed!

Mummyoflittledragon · 22/09/2018 06:17

manicmij
Perhaps we or certain groups of early man ate grains. I think the issue is that those grains were vastly different than those of today. As is the fruit of today and vegetables too. All is sweeter and therefore packed with more sugar. Then we eat additional glucose sugar on top. So even if we were able to prove what one tribe ate and eat exactly the same, it would be loaded with far more carb. I’m not on a low carb diet at the moment. I wish I were but I can’t fight every battle and this isn’t one of them right now. I know my body feels much better on LCHF but for now I’m eating far too much chocolate and ice cream. 😬

thenewaveragebear1983 · 22/09/2018 06:58

For me, all I know is that if I eat a low carb diet, avoid starchy carbs like potatoes, bread, rice, pasta and also sugar, I simply eat significantly less over a day, and find it easier not to overeat over weeks, months etc- enough to lose a significant amount of weight. I am not blessed with being ‘naturally slim’ or having this ability to control my appetite and when I eat sugary foods I simply eat far, far too much of them. This isn’t an alien concept- how many times do you hear people say ‘oooh once I start I can’t stop’, and how often is that about chocolates, bread, sweets in comparison to probably never hearing anyone say that about kale? Obviously someone’s going to say they always say it about kale

Yes, it’s probably not true. I can, and could, eat a small amount of cake and then stop- but it makes my life a challenge that I simply don’t need to face if i don’t eat the very first piece. I can easily resist the first piece. The second piece is the problem. And I will eat it sometimes- my baby’s 1st birthday cake for example- but I don’t want it pushed on me every single time I go anywhere.

I wonder how many people who’ve dismissed the low carb lifestyle or who say they eat everything in moderation have had this lifelong battle with food that I, and probably 75% of my female friends if not more, have had. When I discovered low carb, I honestly felt like I had found the key to healthy dieting that I had been searching for my whole adult life.

cathyandclare · 22/09/2018 07:43

^
This!!
I'm the same. I'm not overweight but I've been battling with food since my teenage years- periodically bingeing and purging, one biscuit never enough. Since I started low carbing 5 years ago I feel so, so much better. People find a way of eating that works for them but may not want to announce their reasons to the table.

I'd love to eat a roast and just leave the potatoes and Yorkshires, pasta bake would be more of a challenge but like a pp I'd happily eat bolognese/chilli/any pasta sauce without the pasta with salad/veg.

boldlygoingsomewhere · 22/09/2018 08:11

I’m also someone who feel much better on a lower carb diet. I find it regulates my appetite better and has massively improved the IBS symptoms I’d lived with for years. I also have PCOS which is linked with insulin resistance and a higher risk of developing diabetes.
My body does not do well on the standard higher carb diet unfortunately.

mustang27 · 22/09/2018 08:37

For me, soups, salads, stir fries, fish, meat, seafood, egg based dishes are my every day.

Thank god was starting to feel like a complete freak reading this thread.

For someone low carb coming depending on how long they will be and wether they tolerate dairy. Roast a chicken portion it up, make a type of frittata by whisking a load of eggs throw in some veg like peppers and tomatoes couple of teaspoons on pesto dolloped around the top, some cheese, then bake in oven for 30-40 mins or cook in frying pan for 10 mins then under the grill at medium heat for another 10 mins let it cool then portion that up like pizza, also Greek yogurt or Greek style yogurt full fat, some walnut halves or almonds, boiled eggs and a selection of some veggies than can be eaten raw let them know they can pick at those as they like. The above would cost you no more than 10 quid at Aldi's and they would be sorted easily for the weekend. If you are making spaghetti Bol just leave a portion of the beef ragu to the side and do a salad and veg. Honestly it's really not hard to cater for.

I'm coeliac and suffer from really bad ibs I don't eat all that many carbs and I don't eat gluten free shit as it's even worse than the normal stuff just full of sugar and worse. The above is how I eat on a daily basis it is great and relatively inexpensive. Before my diagnosis I ate the cereal, sandwich, pasta every day diet and I was fat and poorly. Obviously not completely comparable as I have an allergy but I do think a lot of people would benefit dramatically.

I agree the high amount of processed carbs and sugar that society eat and the sheer lack of activity is what's causing obesity and possibly a lot of the diseases that kill us today.

Starleaf · 22/09/2018 08:46

I eat a low carb diet, have done since the beginning of this year.
I have TN and have found this woe helps greatly with managing the condition, plus I an gradually losing some of the excess weight I carry.
Low carb is very easy to cater for. Eggs or berries and Greek yoghurt for breaki. Then whatever everyone else eats with either extra green veg or a salad.
One of my favourite meals is a rib eye steak with a mixed salad including baby spinach and avocado pear. Easy quick and yum!

Gummybear14 · 22/09/2018 14:15

Watch ' The Magic Pill' on Netflix for some education about low carb way of eating. Eating keto for 2 months , lost 45 pounds, never felt better and I'm never hungry.

Bashun · 22/09/2018 18:34

So you can spy on them mind their business judge them then call the police on them? Why don't you get off your ass and just ask them? WTF is wrong with people? LoL wow.

Bashun · 22/09/2018 18:36

Survived but didn't evolve

Bashun · 22/09/2018 18:38

Have you eaten gluten free bread? it's easier to eat a brick

Bashun · 22/09/2018 18:41

Carbs don't make people fat. People make themselves fat.

IcedPurple · 22/09/2018 18:57

Yes and guns don't kill people either.......

corythatwas · 22/09/2018 19:15

When people say carbs do they actually mean "carbs" or do they mean "simple carbs"? Because to me the sentence "I am keeping to a low carb diet and eating lots of veg instead" reads rather like a contradiction in terms. Or else my domestic science teacher got things totally mixed up.

Lweji · 22/09/2018 19:40

Today 18:41 Bashun

Carbs don't make people fat. People make themselves fat.

IcedPurple

Yes and guns don't kill people either.......

Oh Dear fucking god.
Has it come to this?

Carbs are important and part of a healthy diet, FFS.

IcedPurple · 22/09/2018 19:45

Carbs are important and part of a healthy diet, FFS.

Carbs when they come as a part of a whole food such as an apple or a tomato are fine. However, processed carbs are neither 'important' nor 'healthy'. Your health would not suffer one iota if you were never to eat another bowl of pasta or slice of bread again. In fact, it would very likely benefit.

Birdsgottafly · 22/09/2018 20:00

""Carbs don't make people fat. People make themselves fat.""

It isn't just about being fat.

Thin people die from and suffer from Coronary Heart Disease, Diabetic Clinics see a lot of body Builders and runners etc, who eat loads of Carbs, which is then converted to sugar.

The Carbs most people eat = sugar.

As said, white, processed carbs, aren't needed as part of a healthy diet.

The sugar tax is pointless if people are filling up on chips/bread/pasta and rice.

Cultures that eat 'healthy' still have issues with early death/heart conditions because of Rice/Pasta.

Lweji · 22/09/2018 20:44

Carbs are important and part of a healthy diet, FFS.

Carbs when they come as a part of a whole food such as an apple or a tomato are fine. However, processed carbs are neither 'important' nor 'healthy'. Your health would not suffer one iota if you were never to eat another bowl of pasta or slice of bread again. In fact, it would very likely benefit.

That doesn't contradict the above.
It's the "carbs are bad" that annoys me and it's not true.

Bluntness100 · 22/09/2018 21:44

It would be interesting to know if the folks pouring sarcasm on low carb eating all have a healthy weight and have never struggled with it. I do hope so.

For me, my weight can go up quite easily, three or four times in my life I've got to a size 16 being tight and I was likely an 18.. Low carb eating keeps me in a size ten and I'm in the gym five days out of seven. Plenty of energy. Healthy weight for my height,

If it works for me, I'm a healthy weight, energetic, not lethargic and over weight, and I've been that, I simply don't understand why anyone would have an issue with the way I eat, try to convince me it's wrong or take offence I don't want to eat Yorkshire puddings and would prefer extra veg instead.

Bottom line is like many people, with some carbs I struggle to to limit what I eat. One biscuit doesn't work for me for example. So I've found a way of eating that keeps me healthy. If you like, love or care for someone, why would you not support them in that. It's not like it's hard.

Ihuntmonsters · 22/09/2018 22:43

I'm on a low FODMAP diet in order to manage IBS symptoms. After a year it's become pretty easy to cook for myself at home without feeling deprived. Very hard to eat out, and if I was staying with someone other than family I absolutely wouldn't expect them to cater for me as they'd most likely have to change what everyone else ate too and I'd have to get them to download an app as it's much too complicated to explain. I was brought up in a 'eat and enjoy' family where fussiness was considered very rude indeed and I hate the restrictions I have.

Some interesting misunderstandings on this thread, for example give them gluten free pasta. Wheat is one of my intolerances so I've looked at lots of gluten free stuff as it is usually also wheat free. Generally GF products are highly processed rice flour plus additives. So not carbless at all (also often not very nice either). Also expensive so I'd be annoyed to think I've catered for someone who can't eat gluten only to find out that they don't have any good reason to avoid it.