This thread is just ego central.
We do not need processed carbs in any quantity, pasta, bread, cereals etc none, nada. Our bodies don't really understand the full signals and they're empty calories, just energy. The only place for them is a good way of getting in bulk carbs prior to a big training session.
In reality, they don't add any nutrition to any diet. Some people manage not to overeat them, but many don't, hence obesity epidemic.
Carbs from vegetables and to a lesser extent, fruit, are vital for our cell development and energy.
But the carbs we get from vegetables come with a host of other nutrients, bulk and fibre handily built in, meaning you don't need to consume more food and therefore calories, in order to obtain them.
The NHS are switching to recommending a low carb eating plan which reverses type 2 diabetes.
You can yell about it doing you no harm alm you like. My granny is 90 & smoked like a chimney for decades, smoking still kills.