To think disabled women are going to lose their rights?

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I recently had a conversation with someone who finds it perfectly acceptable to direct an able bodied transwoman in a swimming pools ladies changing room, to the disabled facilities. Up to now I have been fully supporting concerned women. However, it now appears that the "go to" could be to direct people to the disabled facilities, disregarding the needs of disabled women who may have to queue to use their own hard fought for facilities.

Surely it’s the rights of all disabled people not just women though?

Then where do you suggest they go?

My child uses the accessible toilets as their mental health problems, which has manifested itself as my child being trans, means they would be very distressed using the toilet used by their biological sex and I don't feel it's right to use the toilet of the sex they identify with.

Is my child supposed to just piss in the street? Or simply get over their mental health problems?

I would say if they identify as male tjen using that toilet would be much more appropriate, or vice Versa.

Disabled facilities shouldn’t be the go to for everyone!

Yes you're right sirzy but in this case I'm referring specifically to the concerns of many women as that is one of the main issues at the moment. Is it going to become acceptable to direct people to the disabled facilities in the women's changing room, to alleviate discomfort, embarrassment of other women. In other words, are disabled women about to be thrown under the bus?

Buzz I'm talking about the disabled changing cubicle in the ladies changing room at the swimming baths. Sorry, don't think I explained properly.

Maybe one solution would be to make the disabled cubicles at swimming pools only accessible with a radar key. That way, only people entitled to the key, could use it? That system does work well in outside public toilets.

You can buy a radar key on eBay.

Who directed the transwoman to the accessible facilities?

Even with that don't you think mental health should be classed as a disability?

So glad the changing facilities at all the swimming pools in my local area are mixed. You just go in any cubicle. Been like this for at least 30 years and there has never been any incidents.

buzz

I think some aspects of mental illness could be classed as a disability

But i dont think everyone with a mental health problem should use the disabled

i certainly wouldnt have a go at anyone able bodied leaving the disabled loo as i dont know if they have a hidden disability or an issue that means that its better for them to use that toilet

dafty

Same with our swimming pool

There have been issues though

Im assuming not enough that they felt like changing it back but it also has small men only and female only rooms and family rooms. So people with an issue woukd more than likely use those

Not every disability means someone NEEDS to use the disabled toilets though.

By your own admission it is your choice they don’t use the toilets they identify with which makes it a very different situation to the person who can not access any other toilet due to their disability.

Thanks for letting me know that Professor I can bring that up at my next local disabled rights group meeting.

So where do you suggest a transwoman changes? She might not want to frighten make women /girls uncomfortable she doesn't want to change in the mens cubicles because she IDs as a transwomen and considering many trans people say they have body dysmorphia which is a medical condition then they are perfectly entitled tonuse thechanging room which pool staff directed her too.

You can get a free Radar key why would you be buying one on ebay ?

"Is it going to become acceptable to direct people to the disabled facilities in the women's changing room."

Disabled facilities being in the women's changing room is a problem in itself. They should be unisex.

My child cannot access the toilets of their biological sex because it would have a huge impact in their mental health. They don't use the toilets of the sex they identify with because that is also the wrong thing to do.

We literally cannot win.

small men only Were do tall men go? Hehe, sorry.

You may want more than 1 radar key. We have 4 to make sure that there is always one with each of us.

Yes buzz I do think mental ill health is classed as a disability. I have 2 adult children with mental ill health. Both obtained radar keys with their Pip certificates. Maybe that is the way forward? Didn't know you could buy them on eBay though.

I think being able to buy them on ebay just opens it up to abuse and really iffy but hey ho I have 2 1 is in my bag the other i keep in my wheelchair pocket maybe i should sell 1 on ebay make a profit

I think the reason some people might buy them on Ebay, is so they don't have to stand and explain to a stranger why they're asking to use the accessible toilet.

Interesting BBC link here, about hidden disabilities and toilets

Surely the disabled toilet is absolutely the correct place for someone who has a mental health condition which makes them distressed to use the toilet that they should be using based on their sex?

I find it odd to that anyone thinks that the correct space for a man with a mental health disability to use is the women's space?

So without the mental health condition - a man should use the men's space. If their mental health condition disables them to the point that they are unable to use the men's space - then the disabled space seems the obvious place for them.

It is completely illogical that a man should ever think they are entitled to use the women's space, disabled or not.

That's a good idea Mrsjayy Wonder how much they're going for?