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Freedom of the press is not just important to democracy; it is democracy. Trump no. 94.

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TheClaws · 05/09/2018 00:41

Quote from Walter Cronkite.

Previous thread here:

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Lweji · 05/09/2018 15:31

An important side task:

have you voted for or against Colbert's beard?

twitter.com/StephenAtHome/status/1037185552750194688

ohmymimi · 05/09/2018 15:43
Hmm Kyle Griffin @kylegriffin1 Brett Kavanaugh will not answer whether a sitting president has to respond to a subpoena because it's a "potential hypothetical." mobile.twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1037349654730612739
Lweji · 05/09/2018 17:42

He should be asked what he'd think in case the next Democrat President should be faced with a subpoena.

Imagine what would happen if politicians, particularly Repugs were forced to be coherent.

Minimammoth · 05/09/2018 17:59

Thank you Gump

lionheart · 05/09/2018 19:14

Big mistake, probably. Roy Moore v Sacha Baron Cohen.

www.documentcloud.org/documents/4829377-Complaint.html

There are always tapes.

www.axios.com/bob-woodward-fear-book-excerpts-donald-trump-9f7fa27f-7c8b-4f28-bcc1-99fcb22be315.html?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=organic

'Furious Trump trapped by hundreds of Woodward tapes.'

Gumpendorf · 05/09/2018 19:30

www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/09/bob-woodwards-reality-bomb-is-blowing-up-the-west-wing

It’s pandemonium. He literally isn’t talking to anyone. He’s canceled meetings and is on the phone calling up his friends,” one source said. Current and former staffers, meanwhile, pointed fingers in all directions as they sought to deflect blame for the damaging leaks. “I’d rather be an unapologetic defender of Donald Trump than Judas,” one West Wing official told me.

Gumpendorf · 05/09/2018 19:34

Pres. Trump told me Bob Woodward is a liar: "He likes to get publicity." (Am TV pooler today.) @POTUS adds: "We do run a strong White House, there's no question about it."

twitter.com/HallieJackson/status/1037406238273880066

Gumpendorf · 05/09/2018 20:28

JUST IN: A federal judge has denied Paul Manafort's request to move his next trial from DC to Virginia cnn.it/2Q7vJOY twitter.com/CNNPolitics/status/1037419608637140993/photo/1

alardi · 05/09/2018 20:30

I have the Woodward book on order. OMG. I read a load of shocking headlines.. and then more come out. The thing about Ghosts in the Oval Office. Just OMG.

cozietoesie · 05/09/2018 20:30

Well if he fires Mattis, he loses the army.............

Gumpendorf · 05/09/2018 20:30

Thread on T&C for Manafort trial for anyone interested:

The latest hearing in Paul Manafort's DC case just wrapped up. We got a series of rulings from the judge on what will and will not be allowed in his upcoming trial — some are similar to the EDVA case, and some are different:

twitter.com/ZoeTillman/status/1037362029546405888

cozietoesie · 05/09/2018 20:35

Sorry. ......he loses the armed services......

Gumpendorf · 05/09/2018 20:50

www.thedailybeast.com/trump-lawyer-rudy-giuliani-to-bob-woodward-release-the-tapes

Giuliani is hurt, poor diddums.

ohmymimi · 05/09/2018 20:53

Christina Wilkie
@christinawilkie
NEW: White House is actively discussing potential replacements for Jim Mattis, @joshrogin reports
Opinion | The White House is discussing potential replacements for Jim Mattis
washingtonpost.com
mobile.twitter.com/christinawilkie/status/1037420327066918912

Gumpendorf · 05/09/2018 20:53

An anonymous admin official writes in the NYT. 😱

Given the instability many witnessed, there were early whispers within the cabinet of invoking the 25th Amendment, which would start a complex process for removing the president. But no one wanted to precipitate a constitutional crisis. So we will do what we can to steer the administration in the right direction until one way or another it’s over.

I Am Part of the Resistance Inside the Trump Administration https://nyti.ms/2CyF3Jh?smid=nytcore-ios-share

ohmymimi · 05/09/2018 20:54

Screws being tightened:
Christina Wilkie
@christinawilkie
Wow. @nytimes takes the rare step of publishing an anonymous op-ed from a senior Trump WH official: "I Am Part of the Resistance Inside the Trump Administration," writes the author.
President Trump at an event in August at Trump National Golf Club in Bedminster, N.J.
Opinion | I Am Part of the Resistance Inside the Trump Administration
nytimes.com
mobile.twitter.com/christinawilkie/status/1037426725448245249

Gumpendorf · 05/09/2018 20:54

Bob Woodward seems to have begun a snowball effect and the book hasn't yet been published.

ohmymimi · 05/09/2018 20:55

PingGrin

ohmymimi · 05/09/2018 20:58

Christina Wilkie
@christinawilkie
New from @maggieNYT: Jerome Corsi, Roger Stone associate and conspiracy theorist w Alex Jones infowars operation, has been subpoenaed in the Mueller investigation and will testify Friday.
Robert S. Mueller III, the special counsel, on Capitol Hill last year.
Jerome Corsi, Conspiracy Theorist, Is Subpoenaed in Mueller Investigation
nytimes.com
mobile.twitter.com/christinawilkie/status/1037390263801573376

lionheart · 05/09/2018 20:58

Lawd.

www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/09/woodwards-account-of-trumps-mock-interview-with-prosecutors-isnt-pretty/569410/

'"When did you first learn that there was a problem with General Flynn?" Dowd asked Trump in their mock interview, Woodward writes. "I'm not sure,” Trump replied. “I think when McGahn had talked to Sally Yates. But John, I'm not sure." Dowd, playing the role of a prosecutor, retorted: “What’d you do about it?” "I think Don took ahold of it,” Trump said. "Did you call Flynn in?" Dowd asked. “No,” Trump said. "Did you talk to Flynn at all?" Dowd pressed. "I don't know,” Trump replied. "Well, Mr. President, did you ever ask him if he talked about sanctions with Kislyak?" "No,” Trump said. Dowd, Woodward writes, was unrelenting: "Are you sure about that, Mr. President? We have some evidence that there may have been such a conversation. Are you sure about that?"

At that point, Trump went off on a tangent that was difficult to follow, according to Woodward, eventually reiterating that he “felt very bad” for Flynn, whom he “admired,” but that McGahn and the then-chief-of-staff Reince Priebus had recommended that Flynn be fired.'

ohmymimi · 05/09/2018 21:00

'Full Transcript Of Trump’s Oval Office Interview With The Daily Caller'
September 5th, 2018
WASHINGTON — President Donald Trump sat for an exclusive Oval Office interview Tuesday with The Daily Caller’s Saagar Enjeti and Vince Coglianese for approximately 38 minutes.
amp.dailycaller.com/2018/09/05/full-transcript-trump-daily-caller-interview?__twitter_impression=true

AcrossthePond55 · 05/09/2018 21:04

Well, Woodward (& Bernstein) brought down one President. Why not this one too, seeing as the amount of fraud and corruption is at least treble over the Nixon Administration.

My dad always used to say “Beware the fury of a quiet man”. Woodward is rather soft spoken isn’t he? 😉

Gumpendorf · 05/09/2018 21:07

If he does bring down Trump, Across, I might even forgive Bob Woodward for not being Robert Redford. 😉😀

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