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Another Roxanne Pallett..

93 replies

wolfywolfy · 04/09/2018 00:14

Lots and lots of threads and media attention about her at the moment.
What she did was horrific and sly...
But can we please stop giving her 'armchair diagnoses of mental health and saying she has a Personality Disorder and that's why she did what she did ...
It may actually be that she is just PLAIN nasty and sly....
I myself a sufferer of a Personality Disorder find it really disheartening when people act in appealing ways and it's because of 'personality disorder'
I have BPD and would never ever think of behaving this way.
The stigma for mental health has been lifted in recent years with more people being understanding and open about it, but it's personality disorders that are still kept quiet and it doesn't help when people in the public eye behave in a certain way and they are giving the label 'personality disorder' it really doesn't help those who have a genuine diagnoses feel able to open up about it because people will automatically think we will behave like someone like Roxanne Pallet.
I hope this thread made some sense .

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wolfywolfy · 04/09/2018 00:16

Sorry typos appealing meant to say appalling

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MrsStrowman · 04/09/2018 00:20

It absolutely does OP, I'd like to add to your point that what she has done also shouldn't be used to compare any other victim of violence, eg 'oh she's just like that Roxanne, it's all made up' , regardless of whether she has any diagnosed or undiagnosed mental health issues, this kind of behaviour and false allegations are incredibly rare. I implore people, don't make assumptions about her mental health, or imply that others with or without mental health conditions would also make false allegations. The damage she could do for others is horrendous.

ladybird69 · 04/09/2018 00:26

She hasn’t got mental health problems she’s just pure evil. I got divorced from an abusive man. Who my Gp, counsellors and police officers involved, called physcopathic narcissistic personality. It’s not mental health but planned manipulation to destroy the victim. And you will never win against this kind of person. They will make it all about them you will be the bad guy.

wolfywolfy · 04/09/2018 00:27

Some people are just nasty people mental health or not ! It just seems people are very quick to blame a mental illness which is quite upsetting for people with mental illness.
It's almost as if because we are now so open and knowledgeable about mental health, people have seemed to have become experts and throw round their diagnoses of somebody.

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JellieEllie · 04/09/2018 00:28

I agree. I don't think she has mental health issues (if she does they aren't the reason she has acted the way she has all these years)
I think she has a form of munchausens which is why over the years she has tried to get attention of any sort from anyone by faking or exaggeration scenarios and situations. I also think she's a narcissist, possible sociopathic traits too. She's manipulate, a compulsive liar, shows a massive lack of remorse or sympathy, pretends to cry but actually doesn't shed tears, shallow emotions and a lack of empathy for anyone other than herself as proven tonight when asked what her family thought and she said they were gutted for HER. I Believe they were probably more gutted that SHE has shown them up and embarrassed them but she genuinely thinks it's her they are concerned about.
She has a very nasty streak within her and I do believe that she has the potential to completely destroy someone's life because she feels like she is in power when she has the upper hand.
Definitely not mental health issues. No amount of medication could help a woman like that.

wolfywolfy · 04/09/2018 00:29

Let's all remember Roxanne made a career for herself being actress !!! That is what she is alright haha...

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NaughtToThreeSadOnions · 04/09/2018 00:35

I totally agree, i had this duscussion with my friebd a few days ago, having seen many oh shes mentally ill tweets.
Arm chair psychaistrists, diagnosing her and excusing her actions.

Kelvin Fletcher, who played her on screen husband in Emmerdale, said it its a huge diservice to those who are actally ill, and rather saying that this is how they behave. That they are devious andvmanilpative, my friend said they can be, my response was yes so can people who AREN'T. and the presumption that people are because their have mental poor health, is wrong. SHE IS DEVIOUS AND MANILPATIVE, she may pr may not have a mental health issue, i dont actally belive she has, but armchair diagnosis undermines real issues.

I agree with the PP, who kentioned the damage shes done to real victims because there will be the stance of yeah yeah just like Roxanne now.

So shes damaged two groups pf people who are some of the most vunrable is society

stopfuckingshoutingatme · 04/09/2018 06:34

I have just come back from holiday and was shocked by the vitriol poured toward her actually

It’s a fucked up environment and she fucked up in some way clearly

But the scorn and vitriol and hate being directed at her be every single social media and media outlet is vile . She is now in no doubt that Everyone hates her Sad

Really horrible

And how can she have ‘ruined’ him ? When it’s clear that whatever he did was filmed anyway ?

I can’t understand how so many people can have so much hatred for one messes up human

And why is this in the news anyway

Horrible and I do worry how she can move in from this

Softkitty2 · 04/09/2018 06:37

I agree. Call it what it is some people are just nasty.

MH is now used as a scapegoat for shitty behaviour.

Mumsnet do love a diagnosis though 😒

NaughtToThreeSadOnions · 04/09/2018 07:15

And how can she have ‘ruined’ him ? When it’s clear that whatever he did was filmed anyway ?

Maybe watch what happened her reaction to it, and the delibrate attempt to get him thrown out, and the distress shes shes caused ryan

Undercoverbanana · 04/09/2018 07:25

As someone with poor MH I find it very frustrating how undiagnosed “MH issues” are blamed for poor behaviour.

I don’t follow the sleb world, but I believe she is an actress who has accused some bloke of violence towards her on some nasty “reality” programme. I would guess that she may be one of the “desperate for attention brigade because I want to be faaaaamous” if it has been shown to be false.

ChristmasFluff · 04/09/2018 07:35

Martha Stout's 'The Sociopath Next Door' will explain a lot. People need to be aware that there are people who will plot to take you down for fun, or because you cross them (both probably applied in the Roxanne Pallett case). They are more common than you would think.

Sociopathy and Psychopathy are currently not included in the DSM, and they tend to be lumped under the umbrella of anti-social personality disorder. However, they are of a different calibre - people with anti-social personality disorder tend to get diagnosed because they break the law and overtly cause trouble. The more cunning ones slip under the radar for a long time, and can achieve positions of great power in society. That is dangerous for society as a whole.

I'd be delighted if situations like this increased awareness of these people.

Sirzy · 04/09/2018 07:39

I actually think the whole thing is awful and shows what is wrong with “reality tv” all they care about is the viewing figures and publicity with no thought of the actual people involved. It should never have been allowed to escalate to this point

Gardenpicnic · 04/09/2018 07:43

^^ agree

expatinspain · 04/09/2018 07:55

Well she seeks attention to an extreme degree and seems to crave victim status. She also seems to target men as opposed to other women. These are not the actions of a well balanced person. It would be unusual for someone with no past trauma, issues or who had had a well balanced upbringing etc to behave like this. I do struggle to believe that people are just evil. There is usually a trauma/issue which triggers these patterns of behaviour.

People who are saying sociopath, Narcissistic etc, well they are all mental health issues. They are personality disorders.
She clearly needs help.

50Running50 · 04/09/2018 08:05

'I'm a sensitive person' she says that over and over and over

Like it's her excuse. The vine interview just makes her look stupid

You can tell it's about damage limitation now....someone has sat with her and told her how to play it to try and minimise the backlash and to save her 'career'

She's not sincere

safetyfreak · 04/09/2018 08:12

I was thinking she was a sociopath. Very little empathy, acting a part be it innocently or as the abused female, no disregard for her partner, manipulative.

mydogisthebest · 04/09/2018 08:13

I had never heard of her and now she seems to be all over newspapers and there are quite a few threads on her about her. I gather she is supposedly an actress.

I think she sounds like a vile nasty person

AamdC · 04/09/2018 08:31

People arestill diagnosong het even on this thread Hmm

misstblue2 · 04/09/2018 09:10

i think she enjoys playing the victim, she acts (and i mean acts) like a vunerable child with afreightened look about her. and i mean from the moment she stepped into the house not just when the shit hit the fan.
she loves the attention of people feeling sorry for her.
she's 35, someone needs to tell her to grow up.
when she went into the house and ran around saying " i'm not sharing a bed with a boy i'm engaged"
a boy they are MEN. grow up roxy GROW UP

Awwlookatmybabyspider · 04/09/2018 09:18

She's only sorry that she was caught out.
It's nothing to do with mental illness. She's just a vindictive bitch. This is not the first time she has done this and now she's shat herself because she's been found out.
Had there been no cameras there. She'd have lapped up Ryans career and life being ruined.
You don't giggle make jokes while calling someone a women beater. Then hours later run into the diary room crying.
That's minimising domestic abuse.
It's nothing to fucking joke about.Angry

Susiesoap7 · 04/09/2018 09:56

I think it's time to let it go now
Maybe she will find work in a supermarket ?

Chuggachuggatoottoot · 04/09/2018 10:01

I also think calling her 'pure evil' is uncalled for too. Hitler, Nazi's, child killers that's what you call 'pure evil'.

Aspenfrost · 04/09/2018 10:27

I read that someone she was at school with said she was one of the school bullies.

Aspenfrost · 04/09/2018 10:28

She was not terribly popular with some of her fellow actors either.

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