Another Roxanne Pallett..

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Lots and lots of threads and media attention about her at the moment.
What she did was horrific and sly...
But can we please stop giving her 'armchair diagnoses of mental health and saying she has a Personality Disorder and that's why she did what she did ...
It may actually be that she is just PLAIN nasty and sly....
I myself a sufferer of a Personality Disorder find it really disheartening when people act in appealing ways and it's because of 'personality disorder'
I have BPD and would never ever think of behaving this way.
The stigma for mental health has been lifted in recent years with more people being understanding and open about it, but it's personality disorders that are still kept quiet and it doesn't help when people in the public eye behave in a certain way and they are giving the label 'personality disorder' it really doesn't help those who have a genuine diagnoses feel able to open up about it because people will automatically think we will behave like someone like Roxanne Pallet.
I hope this thread made some sense .

Another BPD-er here - completely agree OP, it's devastating that people like her are being called this with no proof and it's adding to the stigma. As soon as some women starts acting bitchy and manipulatively, people jump on the BPD bandwagon. I would never ever do a thing like this - although I am a 'quiet' borderline who internalises a lot - borderlines can be manipulative/vindictive, but this tends to be an impulsive reaction, what she did was utterly calculated and ignorant beyond belief. BPD is a reaction to trauma - Roxanne is just poison, if she she fits any characteristics of being mentally ill she is more histrionic...............

The guy she worked on Emmerdale with hit the nail on the head She’s not ‘mentally ill’ or in need of ‘help’. That denounces that people with actual mental health issues are as vindictive and menacing as her. They are not. There is a big difference. That was calculated and manipulative beyond belief

Agreed chuggachugga

I think she is a very nasty spiteful woman who deserves what she's got thus far. but now she's apologized surely it's time to forget about this? People are baying for her blood I don't know what they want..her career is already ruined, it's like some members of the public won't be happy until she's killed herself or something!

I don't know if she has MH issues, she did an awful thing and has rightly been pulled up on it strenuously but to refer her to her as "pure evil" is just ridiculous. Is she as bad as Hitler, Pol Pot, Fred and Rose West? Some of the abuse I have read directed towards her is beyond reason. Did we actually need yet another thread about it. I feel like some people won't be happy until she makes a serious suicide attempt or something.

Cross post lala. I agree with you.

And how can she have ‘ruined’ him ? When it’s clear that whatever he did was filmed anyway ?

What she did was undoubtedly wrong, and deserves condemnation. False accusations of physical or sexual abuse are appalling and do all of us, women and men a sever disservice, but even if her plan had worked, it wouldn't have ruined him. She will undoubtedly receive far worse than he would have done had he actually hit her. Accusations, whether true or not rarely ruin men but they do ruin the women who make them. There are countless examples - the best being Trump. Dan was recorded threatening to kill an ex girlfriend but he's in the house being portrayed as nice guy/good dad of the year.

Desperate weird little woman-girl
I don’t agree though, in that she hasn’t got mental health problems, she clearly has.
Making things up and exaggerating then being in denial in to such shocking levels suggests some very serious issues to me.

I'd like to see these kind of baseless accusations punished properly, maybe via libel laws. She COULD have ruined his life and career, all for nothing. This is evidenc ef the danger of the trite #webelieve you nonsense. It's a dangerous, unthinking bandwagon (that, oddly enough, is only employed when women are the alleged victim; see Asia Argento and Avital Ronell).

False accusers like this (particularly repeated offenders) should be dealt with very seriously indeed.

Narcissists and psychopaths are mental health disorders.
Her behaviour is very controlled, calculating, cyclical and redolent of those afflictions in my view. Her fiancé won’t be that for long and not because he will leave her I suspect.
She does have some things to work through.

Pardon the laypersons speak just how I see it.
It’s not about that poor chap in there it’s all me me me

May I just re iterate to those saying ' another Roxanne Pallett thread'
I wrote this more about personality disorders and the stick it's getting because of people like her. She is just being used as an example.
With the recent news about Kim Woodburn and Roxanne Pallett people are so quick to jump on the mental health bandwagon and I'm just worn down if anyone who has a genuine personality disorder being likened to people like Roxanne Pallett...
People are throwing round the diagnoses when it is a very serious mental health issue and very very complex.
Some people literally are just nasty.

Can't stand the publicity being given to these nonentities. CBB, Love Island, etc - all utter shite.

@eyycarumba post hit the nail on the head

I've no idea whether she has a MH condition or not. I do know it's not a healthy mind to think the way she does.
She appears to like attention and sympathy. I also think she was paranoid about Ryan not liking her and was aware that he knew her flaws and history.
When she got an opportunity to punish him and turn people against him, she took it.
Her actions prove she has a warped mind. Whether that is a MH issue, I don't know unless a professional can confirm?
I've known women like her who have pretended they've been attacked or bullied or exaggerated a situation for sympathy.
I've known women who get hysterical for little reason. They all appeared to have anxiety and personality issues.

I think the whole episode is sordid and repulsive. So much vitriol, ill will and sheer abuse.
One sick nation.

Roxanne Pallet islike a spoiled child they thrive on attention and if they don't get any they look for it Roxanne Pallet has grown from a spoilt entitled child into a spoiled manipulative entitled woman she wanted to deflect from her flirty behaviour that is why all this terrible incident happened regardless of any mental illness which nobody on the internet can diagnose.

My friend did panto with her. She’s a massive bitch. That’s her diagnosis.

I too think she panicked and wanted to deflect her flirty behaviour so then people would feel sorry for her and ignore her flirting when she has a fiancé.

i agree op she hasnt got an illnes shes just vile

shes done it before albeit no proof but others have come out said the same

she consistently went on for 2 days about how hes lying he repeatedly punched her and she wanted him removed

i think his warning should be rtracted now he did nothing

I have read alot people who have worked with her are saying shes a bitch a lair not a nice person ect ect who and where are they saying this I havent seen anything.

And how can she have ‘ruined’ him ? When it’s clear that whatever he did was filmed anyway

If there had been no cameras there, his career would have been in tatters, or at least there would forever have been a question mark hanging over him. She would have been given the benefit of the doubt by many people.
It's a very serious accusation to make, and one which she has made before by a lot of accounts.

You have really nice kind people in this life and you also get just horrid spiteful ones such as Roxanne! I think the interviews have not worked in her favour one bit to make her the ' poor, lost, misunderstood victim' so I think the next thing we will get will be the breakdown, fainting fit etc, leading to her agent to issue warnings about social media bullying etc!..Roxanne herself may even front the social media bulling campaign!

Some people are, or have become, horrible human beings. You don't need a disorder to do shitty things.

Her "get out jail free" card of choice is worse than her being held up as a bog standard "some people lie for their own nefarious reasons" example.

What she is saying will lead some people to believe that those with a history of DV are unreliable witnesses. That they ought to be regarded as potentially incapable of distinguishing between non-abusive contact and abusive contact.

If woman's aid (I believe she is some kind of representative for them ?) jump on that in her defence I dread to think what the longer term outcome might be for women who leave one partner where DV featured, and then find themselves with another. Cos Ms Pallett will get waggled at them if they make a second complaint.

"Are you sure the violence you suffered in the past hasn't caused you to be triggered and just imagined it ?" won't do much for those women's need to be believed.

It was so cynical. So manipulative. And neither of those elements have left the room in the clean up phase. Damn her PR/Agent/Legal people for providing her with that script. It's like none of them care less about the damage her version of the truth could create for women very much at the sharp end. There is a whole professional team behind this "wriggle room" being presented. They can't ALL have a MH disorder.

So what are you left with, other than some (MH disorder free) people will cynically manipulate and gaily throw others under the bus in the persuit of their own needs/wants being met.

How stupid must she be to make such a baseless accusation when the whole episode would have been caught on camera?

How stupid must she be to make such a baseless accusation when the whole episode would have been caught on camera?

Cynical and manipulative doesn't mean immunity from impulsivity. Sometimes the opposite. Once in, quadrupling down is a known form of defence in the face of even overwhelming evidence that one is in fact, a right gitface.

Even quite bright people can get their cunning plan buggered up due to the impulsive nature of a specific deployment of one of their bombs lobbed at other people's lives.

CMI is an Unholy Trinity and the best defence is as much distance as you can humanly manage.