Another Roxanne Pallett..

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Lots and lots of threads and media attention about her at the moment.
What she did was horrific and sly...
But can we please stop giving her 'armchair diagnoses of mental health and saying she has a Personality Disorder and that's why she did what she did ...
It may actually be that she is just PLAIN nasty and sly....
I myself a sufferer of a Personality Disorder find it really disheartening when people act in appealing ways and it's because of 'personality disorder'
I have BPD and would never ever think of behaving this way.
The stigma for mental health has been lifted in recent years with more people being understanding and open about it, but it's personality disorders that are still kept quiet and it doesn't help when people in the public eye behave in a certain way and they are giving the label 'personality disorder' it really doesn't help those who have a genuine diagnoses feel able to open up about it because people will automatically think we will behave like someone like Roxanne Pallet.
I hope this thread made some sense .

I think the witch hunt is ridiculous and smacks of pure misogyny

He is not ruined fgs.

Condemn her, call her out and move on.

I did read she had Graves Disease. That can cause anxiety, panic attacks and psychological problems.

Can someone explain what happened and how she was found out? I googled it but they don't give the history, just the backlash.

However this witch hunt is getting ridiculous with everyone who has ever had a grudge against her coming out of the woodwork including someone she bullied when she was 11.

I have never seen so many people "with a grudge" come forward when somebody fucks up publicly. Nor so many former colleagues weighing in negatively.

I'm not sure this can be dismissed with "grudge". It looks like RP has left something of a trail of tattered relationships in her wake for a long time. And the chickens who were left off-kilter, shocked, or hurt by unfounded accusation ... are now coming home to roost. Maybe because for the first time they will be believed. Rather than knocked back with "it must have been a one off/ you're exaggerating", "a touch of professional jealousy" or "6 of one, half a dozen of t'other".

And being believed tends to matter to hurt people. So I can't blame them if they are wanting their moment where they know their word won't be doubted anymore.

It's possible a habit was fostered by inadequate responses to similar behaviours during the formative years. Habits are hard to break. The more you do it, and get away with it, the more ingrained the habit becomes. It won't surprise me if the "grudges" turn out to be the long standing evidence of something along those lines.

A lot of people, over many many years, seem to have found her reprehensible and untrustworthy. That doesn't usually happen in a vaccum.

think the witch hunt is ridiculous and smacks of pure misogyny

I don't think she'd be getting an easier ride of it if she were a male having accused another male of exactly the same thing.

Sometimes people behave horribly, repeatedly, while being female.

I think the real issue now will be if RP's "over reacted, unreliable witness due to past DV" explanation becomes absorbed and repeated.

Then you'll see some turbo-powered misogyny. Because it is a be-ribboned gift to the men who target previously abused women.

Tbf, on paper it does sound like she has MH issues. If someone was posting about her on here, people would be slammed for calling her name's before knowing if she has MH issues and we would be told to assume she does before we assume she is just evil.
Look at all the threads on here where someone talks about people without apparent disabilities sitting in priority seats or using accessibly toilets, the first thing people throw back at them is "they could have a hidden disability".

Can someone explain what happened and how she was found out? I googled it but they don't give the history, just the backlash

Your best best is youtube. Try

www.youtube.com/channel/UCWNN8gk3a_kHW9857I1kF8w

They have the episodes where the event happened and show how it developed. The comments should give away if you have the right one or not.

It’s kinda good but also bad timing that this is coming out shortly after the #metoo stuff. I suspect she wanted to create a ‘storyline’ for herself around that. What she’s actually done is create the reverse of the abuser / victim scenario that she thought she’d benefit from. It’s unbelievable.

He is not "ruined" but the potential that she had to ruin him was certainly there. She made a mockery of genuine domestic violence and knew darned well what she was doing in light of the whole Me Too movement.
I really felt for the guy. If there wasn't that video evidence then no doubt he would be "ruined"....

(But then to be fair to the girl, play fighting IS fucking annoying, even when my husband does it. People should keep their hands to themselves.)

Of course he could have been ruined. They go into this knowing they need a good edit, which is far from guaranteed.

They know CBB will decide what to show for their own maximised benefit.

All that was needed was ambiguity. Which incidentally CBB may have initially been hoping to create by only showing a distant take of the actual encounter. None of the close up camera angles have been shown.

Without the absolute ratings gift of the footage of RP's own behaviour alone in the bedroom, and how she gradually escalated the seriousness of the encounter that long shot of the encounter and the HM initial reactions RP in tears and shaking might have been all we really had to go on due to editorial/ratings decisions .

And the we'd all be sitting here going "hmm, I see smoke, even if no actual fire".

So I can see why the guy was in bits and terrified of being ruined. He knows showbiz will squeeze you like a lemon till the pips burst if it benefits them.

I do think CBB as a production outfit is getting off very lightly here. This could have been clarified and cut off at the pass at a very early stage, had they wanted to.

I feel so sorry for her family. They must be very distressed. And of course the bloke whom she accused. His family must be so worried about him.

2018already she was play fighting with another bloke in there and done worse to him-which is ironic

The thing is though. All this people are just on a witch hunt, now. Let it go. I have always said no one's punishment should be infinite. However do you the witch hunt against Ryan would have dropped had the cameras not been there to prove her wrong

I müst add aside from paedophiles
rapists, child murders ect.

Awlookatmybabyspider no, if the camera's hadn't been on his reputation would be in ruins! And this is why what RP did is so, so wrong! Not only does it make women less likely to be believed when they report an assault but she has made a mockery of dv.
She's on a par with all the rest of these women that "cry wolf" in an attempt to either ruin a bloke or generate attention.
Does nothing to help women. Full stop.

Not only does it make women less likely to be believed when they report an assault but she has made a mockery of dv

And she knows that disbelief is a real barrier DV victims encounter. You could tell when she came out with...

"this is why women don't say anything"

...while crying and shaking over of Dan, Germ and Ben, just after Ryan had been trying to defend himself to the three of them.

Oh ffs it's got nothing to do with misogyny. I said on the other thread that people need to stop projecting their own issues onto this story. Some women are just unpleasant people in the same way that some men are.

And I certainly don't feel sorry for her family, because something must have gone very wrong during her upbringing to have made her like this.

she panicked and wanted to deflect her flirty behaviour so then people would feel sorry for her and ignore her flirting when she has a fiancé

This.
And that's one of the things neither Vine nor Willis picked up on in the interviews.

She has Daddy issues. She just craves the attention she missed out on

I think the witch hunt is ridiculous and smacks of pure misogyny

Me too . I was away when this all kicked off and was shocked to see the tail end . One silly woman does something shit . I can See this driving her to do something sillier and
Worse . Cannot believe the vitriol .

I have also heard stories from someone at emmerdale and she definitely sounds like she has some major anxiety related issues .

And yes Dan . Prize cunt . And not a word

Whatever the reasons for her behaviour are, she's better known today than she's ever been.

Mission accomplished.

She's probably a narcissist. But not knowing her childhood or her personal life etc you can't really guess what shaped her etc or what else is really going on. But she does seem to have pissed off everyone who has ever had contact with her. So something's 'off' , as usually if even if you are 'marmite' personify wise you'll have a few people in your corner.

I think that people are just trying to get their head around what she did. We should hesitate before labelling anyone with a snap diagnosis of mental health issues but listening to her interviews she certainly needs help of some kind. She is disconnected from reality and is behaving in a very destructive and irrational way. I'm not comfortable with all the baying for blood on social media or the vitriol towards interviewers who supposedly haven't been hard enough on her. Whether she's deeply troubled or just evil, you don't solve ugliness with more ugliness.

I agree that armchair diagnosing her with a specific condition isn't great. However she clearly needs help urgently.

I've never watched Emmerdale or this current Big Brother, but it's hard to escape the story, it's everywhere. I did however see RP interviewed on Jeremy Vine just to find out what all the fuss was about. As many people have now come out of the woodwork with various testaments as to her history, clearly she isn't a very nice person. However, I think there is a tendency to have "trials by media" these days as with the Coleen Nolan debacle and I'm not trying to make a judgement on the rights and wrongs of that, I just feel that the vilification of both RP and CN has got somewhat out of hand, they are not murderers, possibly, certainly in the case of RP a rather unpleasant character who has got her just desserts. I think it's time to move on, she and possible CN will have to live with the consequences of their actions, their best course would be to go away and be quiet until it all blows over. Does anyone remember the media storm that kicked off when Shilpa Shetty was in the Big Brother House. Poor Jade Goody is no longer with us, but I doubt whether many people associate the other two with that incident now.