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AIBU to think there is something seriously dodgy about the house?

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WatchedTooMuchBrookside · 21/08/2018 22:02

Name changed as this is soooooooo outing...

I’m a first time buyer and viewed a property today on a development that is less than 20 years old. There have been several houses recently sold on the development and a few more still for sale, it’s a nice area popular with naice families and retired folks.

The house I viewed today has been on the market for a long time and is vacant and appears to have been vacant for quite some time. It is on the market with three estate agent and has three boards outside it. It is realistically priced and needs nothing at all major doing to it (except a significant area of carpet replaced which I’ll explain later). It’s probably even up for less than market value since all the bedrooms have high spec good quality fitted furniture and nice made to measure curtains and blinds unlike other houses in the development that are up for £10k more.

On looking at the history of the house, it was bought over a year ago and put back on the market for less than it was bought for under 5 months later. The Estate Agent said that it’s in the hands of a company and also, curiously a small but still significantish amount of the deposit is already paid if we wished to buy?!

Upon viewing today there was a huge mound of mail behind the door, indicating there have been no viewings in a couple of months. An almost identical house two doors away is STC since last Thursday as is one round the corner. The house was immaculate apart from spiders/daddylong legs and the odd cobweb. It had definitely had a very deep clean at some point. It looked like it had been decorated at the time it was last bought back in 2017 but not in the way you would if you were turning around for a quick sale.... ie not typically neutral shades like magnolia etc but two rooms had new glitter feature walls and the lounge had quite ornate, pretty new wall paper on and the kitchen had quite distinctive but lovely new tiles. It really seemed like someone had made a personal choice based on what they wanted, if that makes sense rather than thinking about the rental markers or keeping things neutral for a quick sale. We’ve viewed other homes in the development and this one was much more nicely decorated, even than those that have recently sold there for more than the asking price of this one.

So here is where it starts to get creepy...

Throughout the majority of the house the carpet was cream and was one of the only things that needed replaced as it was quite old. In the lounge there was a thick, darker coloured carpet that was brand new and, from the pile, it was clear no-one has lived in there and there has been no furniture on it since the carpet was installed. The stairs of the house are in the lounge and have the same new carpet. Everywhere else, it’s still the old cream stuff.

The person I was viewing with opened the cupboard under the stairs and my first thought was, “how odd! A random red carpet under the stairs, why didn’t they just continue the new lounge carpet in there?” and then the person I with went pale and said to the EA “Excuse me, that’s not blood is it?!” At that point I looked right into the cupboard and saw that, in fact, the old cream carpet was in there and there was a HUGE round blood like stain, maybe 45cm diameter, in the cupboard under the stairs, right up to where it joins with the newly replaced carpet in the lounge. The EA sort of laughed it off and said “noooo I’m sure it’s not blood!” but we later looked in the cupboard again before leaving and studied it carefully and it definitely wasn’t anything like red wine or paint or anything obvious, it really did look like a pool of blood.

The garden was really big and over grown and we decided to walk to the bottom of it as there was a gate at the end and we weren’t sure where it led. When we got to the fence at the bottom of the garden there were about five peeping tom holes cut into it!!! They were round, about the size of a 10p piece and at various different “eye level” heights.

I know it’s going to sound weird but before I saw these two things (the possible blood and peepholes) I felt as though the house “felt sad”. I know that sounds really woo but that’s the only way I could describe it. I suppose a lot of long term vacant houses feel a bit like that because they aren’t lived in.

A couple of friends think I’ve just got a very vivid imagination and that the pictures online are gorgeous and I should put an offer in but I feel really uneasy about it. They’ve pointed out, and I sort of agree, that if it is a blood stain in the cupboard, the owners would have replaced the carpet to hide it. But even taking out the possible blood stain...would you think that the other circumstances are a bit too dodgy to consider putting an offer in?

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DarkDarkNight · 22/08/2018 00:43

I have an acquaintance who moved in and out of a house very quickly because she just couldn’t settle there. She said it never felt happy, her pets acted odd in a certain part of the house and her and her partner would wake up in the middle of the night at the same time.

A neighbour asked her one day if what happened there didn’t bother her then refused to elaborate when asked what she meant. It turned out the previous tenant committed suicide and was undiscovered for a long time. My acquaintance said she knew she would never settle after finding out.

Maybe the recent decoration is somebody who bought the house intending to stay but sold because of the atmosphere.

I thought the law said there is no legal duty to disclose the history of the house but if asked outright it was illegal to lie. So I would ask all of the EA if there has been any deaths recently.

DarkDarkNight · 22/08/2018 00:46

Just seen your update Sad

Bugjune · 22/08/2018 00:47

@10storeylovesong, can you tell us the story of the Wilmslow murder house please. It's my neck of the woods, ish.

adoggymama · 22/08/2018 00:47

I wouldn't buy it! The minute you mentioned carpet differences I immediately thought murderShock

Try asking neighbours? Sounds super creepy!!

WatchedTooMuchBrookside · 22/08/2018 00:48

I’m not sure how to post an image but, in my mind and the mind of the nurse who was viewing with me, we’ve both seen blood a lot and it certainly looked like old blood. The colour was the same as in the link below but the stain was a lot bigger and there was a higher concentration in one area. Closest thing I’ve ever seen to the pattern of it was a head injury.

goo.gl/images/F9cJdZ

Now I need to think some happy thoughts before bed lol!

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MirriVan · 22/08/2018 00:53

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Bugjune · 22/08/2018 00:53

Ah, reckon this is the Wilmslow murder. www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/debts-lies-murder-how-rising-12246120

I will never sleep tonight!

WatchedTooMuchBrookside · 22/08/2018 00:56

MirriVan don’t I was F-ing terrified by that as a child and didn’t sleep for a week!

Also I DID have the wrong postcode with the Land Registry.

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MirriVan · 22/08/2018 00:59

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WatchedTooMuchBrookside · 22/08/2018 00:59

Ugh, that is a such a gratuitous article about a very sad set of circumstances. The poor woman and her children. I feel physically sick reading that.

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TheresAlwaysAnAskHole · 22/08/2018 01:01

Following

MyOtherProfile · 22/08/2018 06:11

Unless the house is in Brookside Close, because I think statistically that was one of the most dangerous places to live in the world.
Closely followed by Midsomer village and Albert Square!

OP I would still put off making a decision until you have spoken to neighbours and the 3 EAs.

NoArmaniNoPunani · 22/08/2018 06:17

I can't see the problem, I'd buy it. My DH died in our house on the sofa. I bought a new sofa but I'm not moving house.

Iputthescrewinthetuna · 22/08/2018 06:20

Have you used the right post code now? Did you find anything?

YeTalkShiteHen · 22/08/2018 06:25

Years ago one of my friends got a flat from the council, without viewing it (she was homeless and desperate) so when she got the keys, a few of us went round with her to help clean and get it ready. She walked into the living room while we were in the kitchen and let out an awful scream.

There was arterial blood spray all up the wall, on the ceiling and a huge dried pool on the floorboards. It was horrific. It turns out the previous tenant had killed his girlfriend in the living room, and was in jail.

They might have cleaned the fecking place before they re-let it though!!!

She stayed, because she had no other choice, but never felt “right”. It wasn’t a happy home, and it felt like there was an echo of the past left behind.

hmcAsWas · 22/08/2018 08:26

Holy crap YeTalk - I'm pretty sure the council could not get away with that these days

WatchedTooMuchBrookside · 22/08/2018 09:03

YeTalk, that’s absolutely dreadful! Your poor friend.

Iputthescrewinthetuna (great name!) - after looking at the Land Registry, the house was bought by the company that originally built it back in 2017. This explains the fact it’s on the market with three agents and so I’m guessing it was a shared ownership or part ex.

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Scuzzlet · 22/08/2018 10:21

I’m dying to see it on Rightmove!

rosablue · 22/08/2018 17:52

Oh and house prices don't always come up in the previously sold lists - my neighbours bought their house a few years ago, from a couple who had been there a couple of years. Although the house was theirs, they belonged to a religious sect and the sect had bought the house with their money (or something along those lines, never got into detailed discussions!).

Turns out that when you look at the prices, it shows the original purchase price and the price when it was sold to the current neighbours but the middle ones that are there are just not shown. Wondered if it was something to do with them being a charity or company or non-personal assets but I can't really see why!

Snitchesgetcandy · 22/08/2018 21:52

Brookside close is actually a real close, I lived just round the corner from it many years ago. All the houses previously used for filming have been converted and sold as homes. Wonder if made up tv murder ghosts are a thing Grin

HelpmeobiMN · 22/08/2018 21:58

To be honest you do sound slightly woo 😬 but also - the feeling of a house is important, and if you don’t have a good feeling about this one you will struggle to love it, I think.

Lilyhatesjaz · 22/08/2018 23:16

Whenever I view a house I am thinking of buying I go into each room alone and just stand there for a few minutes to make sure there is nothing there. I didn't buy one house where I felt a presence.
I don't think you should buy this house if you have doubts about it, as moving again if you don't feel happy there would be very expensive.

Beahun · 24/08/2018 22:05

Did you find out what happened in the house? I wonder if the neighbour in the back was spying on the house/people who leaved there with the wholes being in the fence.

Scuzzlet · 25/08/2018 08:41

Another person desperate to know if you found out about the house Grin

LuckyDiamond · 25/08/2018 08:45

Blood does not necessarily equal murder.

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